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Skeptic deja vu

by MegaDude in

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valis, the researching internet district overbeer, found this older post by skeptic.

i think it shows a pattern, but i leave that to judge for yourselves.

valis asked me to post it as he had run out of posts for the day.

Skeptic

XW,

This is ludicrous!!

When I contacted you, all I wanted was friendship. Yes, this is ludicrious. So why did you decide to play me?

Even more ludicrious is what you are implying about Robyn. You know you planned this in advance. So does Robyn. And you told me twice that you played me.

The point is- I never said that all of it was a lie.

Well, you did mention that I was posting 1% truth. There is not much difference between that and saying it all was a lie.

If you said or did something that I could prove or that is common knowledge and then I decided to talk about that and then added 10 other things to it that you never said or did which make you look like an a**hole??

So, are you implying that what I am saying is about 10% true now? Well, that is an improvement over 1%.

How about your statement to me that you played me? Is that a lie? How about your refusal to tell me when and how you played me because "that is not important now"? Is that a lie?

And wouldn't I be tossing some of that dirt now?

Well, you see XW, thats the thing. Thanks to my groveling and being willing to post my dirt on this forum..or to tell anyone who asks me almost anything....there is very little dirt on me that you have that others dont know. If anything at all.

So tossing dirt at me right now would be useless. Especially since so many here hate me now anyway. There is nothing on this forum that can happen to me that can be worse than what I dealt with on a daily basis in the real world for years.

Due to your popularity, anyone who wants to expose your playing ways will be completely trashed. Their reputation ruined. They have to have nothing to lose, and must be disposable. That's me.

I am hoping that this board will be kinder to the next person who speaks out. I especially hope they will be kinder to robdar.

If you'd like to jump on this bandwagon because you have decided that I'm the one you are currently mad at, so be it.

Those who know Robyn know she is not like that. If you hadn't lied, she would have stayed silent. You brought this one on yourself, xw.

People know me Robyn.

And so do I and Robyn. And we know a side of you few know about.

Xena:
You know absolutely nothing about this other than what you have seen written here or that you have heard from Richard so why don't you just leave this alone? Weren't you just talking about letting it go earlier? So why are you here now?

Why are you on Xena's case? If anything, she has been good to both of us. Her remarks are perfectly reasonable and balanced.

I won't be responding to any more of this thread.

I don't blame you. Not with what I have saved and with what Robyn knows.

Richard

Edited by - Skeptic on 11 December 2002 4:21:48

Edited by - Skeptic on 11 December 2002 5:28:13

Edited by - Skeptic on 11 December 2002 6:46:58

117

Skeptic deja vu

by MegaDude in

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friends

valis, the researching internet district overbeer, found this older post by skeptic.

i think it shows a pattern, but i leave that to judge for yourselves.

valis asked me to post it as he had run out of posts for the day.

Skeptic

Your right, this drama is even more nauseating than most drama, so impure it's motives.

SixOfNine, you haven't yet figured out how you were used in xw's game? *sigh*

Richard, of the thought he didn't have to warn Six in advance class

117

Skeptic deja vu

by MegaDude in

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valis, the researching internet district overbeer, found this older post by skeptic.

i think it shows a pattern, but i leave that to judge for yourselves.

valis asked me to post it as he had run out of posts for the day.

Skeptic

Note for the totally clueless: I am merely responding to Heaven's post. She is not in "my sights" in any way. Heaven is completely safe from Skeptic.

Skeptic and Xenawarrior were involved. They got close, he came on strong and began talking about how much he "loved" her, then marriage, then moving to the states and different ways for him to obtain a greencard and become a citizen. Also mentioning that they wouldnt be able to divorce for a certain # of years or he would have to move back to Canada. All of this within ONE WEEK.

Well, on the second day she said "I am attracted to you, Richard". But, yeah I do come on too strong. In this case, I was encouraged.

What she did not say is that I told her to find herself an American because the Immigration issues suck bigtime. And I told her that if she finds a clone of me locally, take him over me. Long distance relationships are hell at best. But Heaven, I noticed she never told you that part of the discussion.

Heaven, here is the moral dilemma. Should I let an American woman fall madly in love with me and desperately want to marry me and then go.....oh, but darling, I cannot live with you....

Or should I say, at the time when romantic interest is new and easily stopped....do you want to know what you are getting yourself into??...here are the problems with falling for a Canadian.....

Heaven, the quickest way for an American woman to permanently be with me is a fiance Visa which takes 6 to 9 months minimum. And that is the easy route. Am I a player for telling her upfront (like on the FIRST day) or am I a player for telling her after she has madly fallen in love with me, say after several months?

A good con artist would wait to tell a lady. That way her heart is invested much more heavily into the relationship and she has more to lose. That is a standard sales trick, btw.

I tell almost every American woman who shows any romantic interest in me the disadvantanges of falling in love with me. So far, only one has dropped me for that reason. But I think they should know.

I will concede that I do come on too strong.

She has alot to lose. She has herself and her daughter to look out for. She is independant, lives comfortably and has been taken advantage of in the past.

I told her that if we lived together, I would insist on a prenup. The reason is so her assets are protected both from me and from my ex's relatives. Again, I notice you were not told that part.

I personally am concerned about this happening to other women on the board or anywhere else for that matter.

And I am concerned enough that xw will continue to play others. So, I spoke out knowing I would be trashed for doing so. However, I am one of the few on this board who can be trashed and survive it.

The women on the board who are defending him. Im sorry, I dont know you but Im wondering if he has some kind of hold on you. A collar maybe? Sorry bad joke. Who knows, maybe he has chat transcripts of personal conversations with these women and is blackmailing them.

LOL! Sorry, but Robyn isn't into BDSM.

No, I only have transcripts of XW's and my conversations, plus whatever is currently archived. I rarely keep such things, but at least in this I got smart for once. And it is obvious that I am not blackmailing XW, cause I already spilled the beans. Kinda hard to blackmail her now, isn't it?

Here is a unique thought....maybe Robyn and I are telling the truth. I can see why you would question my motives....the spurned lover thingie....but what motive would Robyn have for jumping into the fray, especially now? Maybe she believes in fighting fair. And yes, she does not approve of me exposing XW publicly. But nor does she approve of XW lying about this issue and playing the forum.

Or, It could be possible that he smooth talked them into believing that he is such a victim and has been SO hurt and XW is SO evil blah, blah, blah.

Am I the only one on this site who believes the women here are intelligent? Robyn and Xena are both way too intelligent to fall for such nonsense. As are the rest of the women on this board.

Richard

Edited by - Skeptic on 11 December 2002 4:39:22

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Edited by - Skeptic on 11 December 2002 6:31:34

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Skeptic deja vu

by MegaDude in

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valis, the researching internet district overbeer, found this older post by skeptic.

i think it shows a pattern, but i leave that to judge for yourselves.

valis asked me to post it as he had run out of posts for the day.

Skeptic

Prisca, thank you for understanding the intents of my posts.

That post by Skeptic where he apologises is an indication to me that the guy is a person prepared to publically apologise if he makes a mistake. So what's the harm in that?

Thank you. I am very quick to apologize. I found out later that there was no need to apologize in that instance, but I did not know that at the time I wrote it.

Also, I do try to keep my statements accurate and correct them if I am wrong.

I don't like to see people's dirty laundry aired over the board, but there is the flip side:
If you were looking for a partner, wouldn't you want to know if there was someone/s on the board that was playing with people?
If several people have been hurt, is that enough to give out a warning about someone? Certainly, if several people I could trust said that they had been hurt by a certain "player", then I would be more wary of getting too close to someone. Even if it's not in a romantic sense, it is still helpful to know if someone can be trusted, and who can't be.

EXACTLY. I would not trash my reputation otherwise.

Richard, who thanks Prisca

Edited by - Skeptic on 11 December 2002 5:24:9

117

Skeptic deja vu

by MegaDude in

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friends

valis, the researching internet district overbeer, found this older post by skeptic.

i think it shows a pattern, but i leave that to judge for yourselves.

valis asked me to post it as he had run out of posts for the day.

Skeptic

I can't help but feel like you hit on me HARDCORE in chat when you about shoved your contact info down my throat. I avoided it for a bit, but you asked and asked and hounded me so I gave you my non-personal e-mail addy (hotmail account) and if you will notice, I never answered you.

I apologize Mr. Moe. At the time you were very depressed and as I am used to helping severely depressed people, I offered you my contact info. If memory serves me right, you either indicated...or I thought you indicated, that others would not understand your situation. I told you that I have been through so much weird shit in the last few years that I could understand anything. I apologize for coming on too strongly, that was not my intent. I was only trying to be helpful.

You come off as pathetic and groveling to say the least, and you really need to get a grip and stop comming onto the women here so strongly.

I agree, Mr. Moe. That is one thing I have learned from this.

You not a half bad looking guy, sweet enough, but stop comming on so strong. Just some advice hun, not trying to be mean.

Thank you.

Skeptic, ur nice, seriously u are. I liek you, have no issues with you other than the fact you are like a female dog in heat when it comes to looking for Ms. Right.

Yes, I agree. That is one thing I will attempt to tone down.

Richard

Edited by - Skeptic on 11 December 2002 5:45:50

117

Skeptic deja vu

by MegaDude in

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friends

valis, the researching internet district overbeer, found this older post by skeptic.

i think it shows a pattern, but i leave that to judge for yourselves.

valis asked me to post it as he had run out of posts for the day.

Skeptic

Valis, I was going to say that if you knew what XW says behind your back....but you might already know what she said because everyone in chat treated you like shit after Dallas. I assume she told the truth about that.

Megadude and Valis, thank you for showing that post. I have been wanting to comment on it.

At the time I wrote that post, I thought XW and I were in a budding romance. I know now that she was just playing me the whole time. In his reply to that post, SixOfNine, before he editted his reply to "valour rulez", said that I had "no darling".

Knowing that, I no longer feel the guilt that I suffered from over it. That still may not make my actions on that weekend any more moral.

Edited by - Skeptic on 11 December 2002 5:22:24

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Skeptic deja vu

by MegaDude in

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friends

valis, the researching internet district overbeer, found this older post by skeptic.

i think it shows a pattern, but i leave that to judge for yourselves.

valis asked me to post it as he had run out of posts for the day.

Skeptic

(((((Robyn)))))

I cannot thank you enough. Especially for jumping into this mess knowing that you will be villified as well. You are a very brave person, and have shown such integrity by speaking out. I am sorry for the crap you now have to put up with now and in the future over this.

XW, you know you are lying and playing this forum. So do I and Robyn. You wanted to be silent because you know how handy the Save and archiving features of Yahoo and MSN Messenger are.

You have said in another thread that I told 1% truth and in this thread said I tell one truth and ten lies. You know that isn't true, and Robyn had to speak up. I am glad she did.

Robyn, I am still sitting here feeling stunned because of your posts. I cannot find the words to thank you enough or tell you how grateful to you my heart feels right now. It is not often that words fail me, but they do now.

Richard

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Human Compassion

by Xena in

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i can't help but wonder if it gets lost somewhere in cyberspace.

there are a couple of threads that are active at this time where the original poster did or said something deemed inappropriate....this was pointed out to them...threads locked or the poster retracted what they said...it should be over right?

but nooooo some people continue to kick that poster over and over and over.....with their mocking and cruel comments.

Skeptic

I'm serious.They have doctors who treat disorders such as yours. Please consult your Yellow Pages and find one as soon as possible. They will help you in getting over yourself.

Yes, and there are doctors who find nothing wrong with BDSM.

There used to be doctors who treated people for homosexuality. If memory serves me right, the AMA used to list homosexuality as a disorder. Does that mean homosexuals are depraved too?

Just because you personally find something distasteful does not mean that it is unhealthy.

You have every right practice any sexual activity you choose without being judged. Let consenting adults do the same. Don't judge them.

Richard

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Human Compassion

by Xena in

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i can't help but wonder if it gets lost somewhere in cyberspace.

there are a couple of threads that are active at this time where the original poster did or said something deemed inappropriate....this was pointed out to them...threads locked or the poster retracted what they said...it should be over right?

but nooooo some people continue to kick that poster over and over and over.....with their mocking and cruel comments.

Skeptic

Excellent response, Gary. You are the first to back up your statements. I am truly grateful.

For the rest of you, the reply Gary is referring to has been editted. I shortened it due to the complaints that I am continually posting about a certain issue.

Gary is referring to my comment about the rumor that I am trying to turn the women here into slaves. If I wanted to be technical, I could point out that a submisive is different than a slave..

Gary, I do not see how either of those posts I made were inappropriate.

I will clarify. My orginal statement was bried...what I meant wass, there are rumors/concerns that I am a control freak and that I want to control and abuse the women on this site. That if I could, I would control and abuse every woman here. How do those posts relate to me being a corntorl freak and wanting to abuse women?

Richard

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Human Compassion

by Xena in

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i can't help but wonder if it gets lost somewhere in cyberspace.

there are a couple of threads that are active at this time where the original poster did or said something deemed inappropriate....this was pointed out to them...threads locked or the poster retracted what they said...it should be over right?

but nooooo some people continue to kick that poster over and over and over.....with their mocking and cruel comments.

Skeptic

Xena, you are a very kind, compassionate, and fair person. Thank you for your post.

I was going to reply to some of the accusations in this and other threads.....but some of the complaints are that I keep posting! Guess they want to the right to say what they wish about me, but do not want me to reply in return. Much like the Watchtower Society. The WTS can say what they want about other religions, but the opposite is persecution.

Yiz's request for money may have been an act of desperation or a scam. But there are too many scams out there that are very similar to his thread. There are more appropriate ways for him to ask for help, but if I tell them, people will accuse me of being a player. *sigh*

Richard

Edited by - Skeptic on 10 December 2002 16:56:38