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  Anti-watchtower magazine company

  by d0rkyd00d in

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  i was thinkin the other day, it's a damn shame nobody has started a nationwide magazine company producing a magazine that picks out all of the watchtower's flaws, and that is brought door to door on saturday mornings to show jw's for the asses they are.

  i would be the first one in line to get the latest copies.

  i betcha it'd tear down the whole jw structure....too bad, some dreams are only that..... "no cool quote yet, but i'll think of one soon.

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  The good thing about this is that they can't complain or use it as propoganda ("see ... everyone is against us") - if they do announce it's an attack on them ten it's like admitting that they match the criteria for being a cult!?

  Excellent idea, Simon. I have used this method, as have others.

  I joined Amway as I was leaving the JWs. I had been reading on cults and cult tatics, and boy, was it obvious that Amway is a cult.

  Instead of telling my then current wife why the Dubs were a cult, I decided to tell her why Amway was a cult. She wanted me out of Amway, so she listened to this. She never said anything, but I could tell by the look on her face that see could see how Amway was a cult, and how what I said fit the JWs. JWs normally see similarities because Amway and the JWs anyway...which is why most JWs are against joining Amway.

  A few years ago, some ex-JWs had a phone number where a person could call in and hear a taped message on why the Moonies were a cult. Many JWs wrote them and told them to quit criticizing the JWs! Funny thing, all of the taped messages spoke only of Moonies, and not one word was about JWs!

  Richard
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  I need you tonight my friends,Please

  by Valentine in

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  this danny pearl thing has brought home memories of murder to me(my 1st husband) please,please.......just say you care right now-nothing else.......please.i'm having a real emotional night...i had no one before.............t. todays affirmation:.

  the complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.

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  Valentine,

  I feel for you. I wish I knew the words to provide you with the comfort you need. I wish I could give you a big ol' hug and a shoulder to cry on....

  Richard
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  Canada and USA Hockey score

  by orangefatcat in

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  usa 1, canada 0, booobooo

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  .... if Americans were so great at oral sex, why isn't it an Olympic sport yet??

  Scully,

  LOL! Speaking from experience, Americans are much better at oral sex than Canadians. There is no comparision! Take my word for it!

  Smiling Richard
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  Witnesses just came at my door!!!!!

  by gilwarrior in

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  holy crap!

  i was surfing through this site when i hear a knock at my door.

  no, it can't!

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  Golden Girl,

  where can I find istructons on how to post pictures and images?GG

  Try following the instructions at the following URL. Let me know how it goes, and especially if you have any problems.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=22256&site=3
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  Ethics and morality,

  by Norm in

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  in the west we are rightly very concerned with child labour and other such matters.

  western consumer groups boycott firms that have their clothes made by factories using children.

  i know this is usual in europe and i guess it is in the us too.. in other areas we see no such concerns.

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  Your last comment lost me, Jan. Unless you are playing with Windrider, trying to rile her.

  Her point is valid. There is a point where comments go beyond generalizations and into prejudice. I agree that can be a fine line.

  Even before I met Windrider on the old H2O, I could see that you do have a prejudice against Americans. I do not see you as hard-hitting (or hitting at all?) on other countries like you are on Americans. And your comments are not just on American policies and politics, but on Americans as a people.

  Jan, you know I admire you greatly, but I detect that you are more than a little prejudiced against Americans. Not all, of course, esp. Harmony. But it is there.

  Or perhaps it is a persona you like to project...yet, this is not in keeping with your general open-mindedness.

  Remember how JW's often talk about homosexuals? The love the sinner and hate the sin crap? Yet, their actions and words show that they are prejudiced? The gay jokes, the "I hope my kid does not become gay" comments, not allowing your kids to have a gay, or "formerly" gay people as a friend, the not having gay people as friends, but willingly having "fornicators" as friends. After a while, people know the truth...the person is a homophobe.

  Jan, I suspect that you do have a prejudice against Americans. You seem to apply the same tar brush to most of them. Maybe it is a game, maybe not.

  Someday, Windrider and I hope to take a trip to Norway. We are looking to meeting with you, Kent, Norm and Kirsten when we are there, as we expect to have a good time with each of you. Maybe once you meet Windrider you will find that there is one more American who is nice and intelligent and "the exception".

  Richard
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  Ethics and morality,

  by Norm in

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  in the west we are rightly very concerned with child labour and other such matters.

  western consumer groups boycott firms that have their clothes made by factories using children.

  i know this is usual in europe and i guess it is in the us too.. in other areas we see no such concerns.

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  It's people who don't understand the nature of generalizations who have a problem.

  Where does it end, Jan? My ex's grandmother told us how "darkies" are "lazy". Was she being prejudiced or using a generalization?

  What is the difference between calling blacks lazy or gays perverts and calling Americans Neanderthals?

  Richard
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  Ethics and morality,

  by Norm in

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  in the west we are rightly very concerned with child labour and other such matters.

  western consumer groups boycott firms that have their clothes made by factories using children.

  i know this is usual in europe and i guess it is in the us too.. in other areas we see no such concerns.

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  So, Windrider, how many Americans would I need to know to be able to make a characterisation with, say, a confidence level of 95%?

  Jan, Jan, Jan...how many Jews do you need to know to decide whether you like or hate Jews? How many blacks?

  Richard
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  Ethics and morality,

  by Norm in

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  2. friends

  in the west we are rightly very concerned with child labour and other such matters.

  western consumer groups boycott firms that have their clothes made by factories using children.

  i know this is usual in europe and i guess it is in the us too.. in other areas we see no such concerns.

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  WindRider,

  Although we sometimes do not see eye-to-eye on American issues, I agree completely with your post.

  If I condemn blacks, I am a racist. If I condemn the Jews, I am racist. So, if I condemn Americans, I am racist.

  It is one thing to condemn a government's policies or actions, and quite another to condemn the people in that country with sweeping generalizations.

  As the last American election showed, about 50% of Americans (some can argue more than 50% of Americans) did not want Bush as President. So, U.S. policy is not necessarily the desire of half of the American people.

  Richard, who does not think most blacks are lazy, or that most Americans are idiots, or that Jews are...
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  Ethics and morality,

  by Norm in

  1. jw
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  in the west we are rightly very concerned with child labour and other such matters.

  western consumer groups boycott firms that have their clothes made by factories using children.

  i know this is usual in europe and i guess it is in the us too.. in other areas we see no such concerns.

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  You are the only country in the western world insisting on executing people, and you also have by far the worst crime rate. Coincidence? Hardly.

  Jan, as you know, correlation does not imply causation. The argument quoted is one anti-death penalty argument that I have never understood. Could you please clarify and explain? I agree that executing people does not lower the crime rate. But, how does it raise it?

  Richard
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  Ethics and morality,

  by Norm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the west we are rightly very concerned with child labour and other such matters.

  western consumer groups boycott firms that have their clothes made by factories using children.

  i know this is usual in europe and i guess it is in the us too.. in other areas we see no such concerns.

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  Death penalty: I agree with it in principle, but have reservations based on practical issues. Like people being in prison for fifteen years before you find out that the police faked the evidence and that they are truly innocent. It does not happen often, but it does happen. Some of the anti-death penalty arguments are pretty good, like cost. Now I am inclined to err on the side of caution and say lock 'em up for life.

  Saying that the death penalty is barbaric is bullshit. There are a few killers that I would volunteer to inject the needle into myself. Like Clifford Olsen who tortured 35 children to death and still writes letters to the victum's families bragging about it. Or Paul Bernardo and his wife Karla who tortured two teenagers to death one weekend. Karla also accidentally killed her sister while "preparing" her for Paul to rape...then complained that paying for the sister's funeral used money set aside for Karla's wedding!

  Saudi oil: Norm, what is a good, practical solution that is implementable in the real world? I have dealt with many bastards in my life simply because the alternative was more horrible and that doing the noble thing would not change a damn thing anyway. It is one thing to bitch about a problem, it is another to implement a practical solution.

  Richard, who agrees that there is too much America bashing on this board