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Where are we from.....

by BobsGirl in

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i know that this has been done before, but i am new to the board and i would like to get an idea of where everyone is located.

as an aside .... plesantries or animosities, moderators or no, i am grateful to have this board.

bobsgirl

When and Where D'fed or such....

by StifflersErSlayersBrother in

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a while back there was a post on when/where baptised... i thought i'd do the complete opposite :).

as for me.... sometime in the near future maybe

SlayerLayer

Hmmm...sometime in '93 or '94, not exactly sure. McCormick, SC

Slayer---REHAB IS FOR QUITTERS!
"Arguing on discussion boards is like running in the Special Olympics...even if you win, you're still a frickin retard."

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Important Finding on Reversing Aging

by metatron in

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read about dr. spindler's research at www.lef.org.. caloric restriction can markedly reverse aging changes in .

animals.

its effects are already proven in monkeys.

SlayerLayer

Actually, it was phrased correctly. "In the blood of 100 virgins". If you put me in a pool with 100 virgins, it will eventually fill with their blood.

HA HA HA HA I'm a sick bastard, I know.

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More Remote Viewing

by Decidedly_Unsure in

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SlayerLayer

LOL...now what IS cool, is that bboy and I BOTH probably typed that "90%" at the exact asme time. LOL...Ooooo spooky.

BTW Dan, I'm not ignoring your email, I was just recovering from yet another night of drug induced partying. I tried to focus on the what you had in the email, but my mind was too cloudy from the night before. It's interesting how different drugs seem to effect that part of your brain. Other drugs I've done, seem to enhance my "perceptive skills". I'll include more in my email reply.

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More Remote Viewing

by Decidedly_Unsure in

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SlayerLayer

Uh...bro...you do know that those objects are probably on 90% of these poster's desks right?

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Remote Viewing

by funkyderek in

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following on from the anybody else had visions?

thread below ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=10144&site=3).

i have offered a prize of 50 american dollars or the equivalent in your currency of choice for whoever can guess (or envision or whatever) the contents of a picture i have chosen.. i will be emailing the picture, in password zip format to [email protected] along with unambiguous details of what qualifies as a correct guess.

SlayerLayer

FunkyDerek,

LOL...I really don't need your $50. (Although that would buy me two hits of XTC...hmmm)

This is the first time that I've even checked back to see what the answer was. I'm really not interested in proving anything to anyone, so I usually avoid even bringing up the subject of psychic awareness.

I will try to explain what usually happens when I "see" things. Please don't flame me or compare me to people that believe god talks to them. I'm only trying to explain it, so you will understand where I'm coming from.

Here goes. The very first thing that came to my mind was a car. The car that I saw, not a Volkswagon. I have no idea what kind of car it was. In fact, the type of car never even crossed my mind. I just knew it was a car. I could have guessed at any make and model, but unfortunately, my "perceptive skills" aren't that sharp. I've learned to just take what I get. More times than not, I've been pretty damn close at things like this.

Next, I tried to visualize the setting. The first thing that popped into my head was that it was an unusuall setting for a car. The car didn't fit in the picture to me. So, with that knowledge, I had to take a guess. My guess was an open field. Like I said before, I'm not THAT skilled. I take what I can get. If I "see" that it is a car, then it's likely that it's a car. Ask me what type of car, and I draw a blank.

Finally, I saw a person. Again, no details. Just a person. A tall person at that. In the actual picture, there is a woman holding her helmet up high. When I saw that, I realized why I even said the word "tall". It just made sense to me.

So pretty much this is what I actually saw:

1. A car
2. The car was out of place. (unusual setting)I guessed a field
3. A tall person
4. The color red, which I assumed was the color of the car.

The actual pic:

1. A car
2. The car is surrounded by water. (unusual setting)
3. Three people, not one. The woman holding the helmet up high, is what stood out.
4. The car is white

I may not have seen every line and detail of the photograph, but what I did see, was enough to piece together for a good guess. Instead of trying to be so detailed, I should have just told you exactly what I described above.

Something else to take into consideration, is that I had done massive quantities of psychedelic drugs the night before.

Again, I feel the need to tell you all that I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm only explaining what influenced my description. Do with it what you want.

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In-your-face religion

by SlayerLayer in

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a fews days ago, i met this elderly jewish man, with such a personaltity.

he said that he was 8 years old when he was in the concentration camp.

his stories amazed me.. anyway, as it turns out, he is now an atheist.

SlayerLayer

Thanks for your comments guys. I decided to bring this article to the board after reading one too many flames against Shelby. I do not agree with or believe much of what Shelby has to say, and the first time I ever read one of her posts, I was so irritated by what I percieved as "forcing" her beliefs down my throat. I made fun of her just as other newbies here are doing now.

Why? After I read this article, I asked myself why. I couldn't come up with a reasonable answer. Shelby is very passionate about what she believes. Her beliefs may not agree with mine, but I assume that they provide her with comfort and warmth. When she passes this on to others, is she doing this out of love? I believe so. So why are we so quick to make fun of her? I honestly do not believe she is crazy.

I don't know, I guess I still get irritated by all of the "My lord told me to tell you" stuff. But really, I know that people like her mean no harm at all, they are just trying to share what they believe to be a valuable gift. Their motives are based on love and kindness.

Well, I guess I've probably rambled about this subject long enough. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, I just wanted to share my new found feelings on the matter. I mean, pretending to be her god and posting shit is just rude to me. To my knowledge, she has never had one mean thing to say about anyone, including the people that ridicule her the most.

Slayer

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In-your-face religion

by SlayerLayer in

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a fews days ago, i met this elderly jewish man, with such a personaltity.

he said that he was 8 years old when he was in the concentration camp.

his stories amazed me.. anyway, as it turns out, he is now an atheist.

SlayerLayer

A fews days ago, I met this elderly jewish man, with such a personaltity. He said that he was 8 years old when he was in the concentration camp. His stories amazed me.

Anyway, as it turns out, he is now an atheist. This was really intriguing to me. We talked for hours and then he gave me a newsletter from his secular humanist group.

There was a very interesting article about how we (atheists) respond to everyday in-your-face religion. I thought that some of you might find this interesting. It actually made me think about how I react to religious people in general.

IN-YOUR-FACE RELIGION and how to deal with it

In the June issue of the Voice of Sanity, a letter writer deplored those religious ceremonies and rites that make us Secular Humanists feel awkward and out of place. The writer said he often feels “quietly furious” and is sometimes “raging inside.” Haven’t a lot of us felt that way at one time or another?

A few years ago, I was a juror on a murder trial in Greenville, SC. The foreman opened the first deliberation session with, “Let’s begin with prayer.” In situations like that, I’m usually the only one looking around while other heads are bowed. This time, though, my eyes met those of a pudgy, graying man whose eyes looked too large behind his thick glasses. He raised his eyebrows and pulled back the corners of his mouth as if to say, “Here we go again.”

At the next break we introduced ourselves. He was Ed Bryson from Mauldin, SC. (I’ve changed his name.) He told me he was “irreligious.“ Not hostile, he just avoids religion. The Voice of Sanity letter reminded me of talking with Ed about the same kinds of incidents. This is what I recall from those chats. We felt there are two issues at hand when our mood gets out of kilter over a religious incident. First, why does it bother us? Second, how do we handle the situation?

Formal events such as weddings, bar mitzvahs, and funerals are mostly private affairs. Ed and I agreed that we should never disrupt them. Irreverent grandstanding would be rude and thoughtless. Nevertheless, if anxiety or anger wells up when we decline to take part in a group rite, such as communion, it may be helpful to understand why. Are we anxious because we don’t know what to do or don’t want to be seen as different? Are we angry because we’re forced to brand ourselves as outsiders to be true to our non-belief? The truth is, if we quietly step aside during communion, it’s unlikely anyone would give us a second thought.

Ed once made the point that there are usually three kinds of people at an organized religious exercise. There are those who have a role, such as shamans, Buddhist monks, rain dancers, priests, rabbis, and so on. Then, there are those who have an affinity for the rituals but take part only in whole-group exercises such as dancing or singing. Finally, there may be visitors who observe the exercise with an attitude of, “Well, isn’t that interesting!” Ed could have added a fourth group, the “quietly furious.”

If we can develop the objective, “isn’t that interesting,” attitude of visitors, we could view Judeo- Christianity as we would any other strange culture. We could be respectful of the beliefs, customs, and rites without being active participants and without vocal, angry protest. Silence alone does not condone. We shouldn’t assume that others think our silence means we approve, and insist on setting them straight.

We should attract others to Secular Humanism through compassion and fine example, never through loud outrage, unless we want others to dismiss us as nothing more than a band of roused rabble.

For believers, their beliefs are the lens through which they see everything. Those beliefs are their hope, their anchor, and their solace in hard times. Their beliefs may even protect them from unacknowledged fears. Nothing will be gained by trying to prove them wrong except their undying disagreement and rancor.

Ed and I both grumbled about those gratuitous religious practices that are thrust upon us in secular settings, such as happened in the jury room at the opening of deliberations. No one ever asks if anyone objects to praying. They just launch into it. Why does that bother us? Is it that we feel we’re being taken for granted? Do we feel trapped and resentful because someone has forced his or her beliefs on us, and we have no escape? Do we feel hypocritical because we’re angry over the gratuitous rite but unwilling to object out loud?

Ed and I agreed that those of us who are bothered should pinpoint the reason. Is it only Judeo-Christian incidents that perturb us or is it all religious expression? Do some religious exercises intrigue us while others nettle? Would a Hindu ceremony or a Hopi rain dance bother us?

If a Nepalese woman turned to us on the street, put her palms together just below her chin, bowed slightly and murmured something we didn’t understand, would we be quietly furious? Or would we, as a courtesy, try to mimic her gesture? Perhaps we’d shrug and force a smile, which always conveys, “I have no idea what you just said or how to respond.” What if her soft words meant, “The Divine in me bows to the Divine in you”? Would we rage inside if we understood?

It’s likely we’d be intrigued by the Nepalese woman’s unfamiliar, religious expression but furious at the Christian who brassily opens a secular event with prayer. If so, doesn’t that question our consistency? Because in both cases, we’ve had someone’s beliefs forced upon us.

When someone thrusts a gratuitous rite upon us in a secular setting, we have choices. We can be quietly furious, or we can be objective visitors in a strange culture, or we can politely point out that the rite isn’t appropriate. What’s the worst that could happen if we did speak up?

In A Guide to Rational Living, Albert Ellis says other people don’t upset us. We upset ourselves by the way we react to other people. He might have extended that to include religious rites. No rite, by itself, is upsetting; we upset ourselves by the way we react to it.

If we always react with quiet fury or silent rage, we’re handing over control of our behavior and emotions to the religionists. That’s unthinkable. Since we are in charge of our own reactions, or should be, we can choose to react without belligerence and without emotional distress. We can think, “Well, isn’t that interesting!”

Whatever you do, be sure it’s kind, and be sure it’s necessary.

— Chuck Wuest

Their website is http://www.uscsh.org

Slayer

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