We left when my eldest son was 14, and shortly after, the thing he told me he hated most about the JWs was that they were turning him into a p&$$# - a weakling. After leaving, both my sons wanted to go to gyms where they could essentially learn to defend themselves as well as blow off steam. I have since learned that hard workouts are a good way to get over the trauma stored inside myself from the JW years. I regret so much. At least after leaving, we can rebuild our self-respect and learn to defend ourselves as needed.
DarleneGatus
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WT Style Pacificism
by Sea Breeze inepisode 203 of netflix ... i am a killer looks at the murder of christopher chavez in texas.
christopher chavez was a 22 year old ministerial servant and a born-in son of an jw elder.
after a thursday night meeting and a quick bite to eat afterwards with friends at a local restaurant, he was kidnapped, taken to a gas station and forced to drive his killers around for hours while they were in the back seat.
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Another Bad Egg
by jonahstourguide inhi folks.. just another case to prove that the tower organisation has creeps that other organisations do.. they are not special or chosen by god.
i wonder if it will make mainstream new here in oz.
i will paste some of the article in a few minutes.. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahukewi1qogytuv5ahutsmwghv69ab0qfnoecaoqaq&url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.portstephensexaminer.com.au%2fstory%2f7880595%2fqld-parishioner-charged-with-rape-torture%2f%3fcs%3d7&usg=aovvaw3yd9rimx8sarai1vnbehev.
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DarleneGatus
ThomasMore,
Speaking out will get you DF'd - period.
When you say the above, do you mean that the person who "speaks out" gets charged with "slander" which is a disfellowshipping offense, or is the punishment related to "spreading disunity" because of continuing to talk about something which is "not upbuilding"?
I've been "out" of the organization for a while, and am wondering if this is part of cracking down on dissent...
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Sexual abuse and Jehovah's witnesses- the gift that keep on giving
by wannaexit inthere seems to be no end to the many jw's who sexually abused minors.
here is another story:.
https://www.inquirer.com/news/pa-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-assault-attorney-general-shapiro-20221027.html.
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DarleneGatus
The "two-witness rule" being applied to child abuse cases is bad enough. The way they won't allow consecutive victims to be counted as more than two witnesses causes further insult to victims and causes reasonable people to disbelieve in God - how's that for a stumbling block?
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Just popped up in my YouTube feed…
by Biahi inkingdom hall raided by police.
fresno county (ca?
) looking into a man named escobedo, for child molestation, groping, and rape, against at least 10 victims.
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DarleneGatus
You would think that even the "two witness rule" would establish guilt after a second consecutive complainant came forward. Instead, they allow "conduct to progress" from inappropriate behaviors to molestation to rape, just because each consecutive complainant was alone. Sad.
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Watchtower looses Norwegian Appeal
by Diogenesister inwatchtower has just lost its appeal in the norwegian courts over the withdrawal of the funding it receives from the government as an officially recognised religion.
the initial decision will now stand due to what the court termed 'exclusionary practices' which includes the witnesses barbaric practice of shunning minors, even by family members in their own homes.
the ministry of children and families have decided they are now no longer eligible for the state grant of 16 million norwegian kroner given to officially recognised religions.. the following is a statement has been issued, i have summarised if it isn't readable: .
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DarleneGatus
Hooray for Norway! Shunning of minors is so obviously harmful psychologically and only makes them hate the religion. Not the "loving way to bring them back to Jehovah" that members claim it to be. Now if only there was a way to petition other governments to follow suit by removing tax exemptions for congregation properties and donations.
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Virgin or whore complex that Witnesses have made my married life difficult!
by Witness 007 inso was a virgin when i got married but my wife studied later in life and had been married for 6 months and had two boyfriends in her past.
my strict witness mother hated my wife and thought she was not good enough for me.
she thought all worldly women were dirty whores who cannot keep their vaginas to themselves.
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DarleneGatus
And good for you, Witness 007!
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Virgin or whore complex that Witnesses have made my married life difficult!
by Witness 007 inso was a virgin when i got married but my wife studied later in life and had been married for 6 months and had two boyfriends in her past.
my strict witness mother hated my wife and thought she was not good enough for me.
she thought all worldly women were dirty whores who cannot keep their vaginas to themselves.
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DarleneGatus
Fun fact - the more you suppress healthy sexuality and the more isolated and paranoid people become, the more perversity develops. I remember sitting in a Kingdom Hall when the circuit overseer was lecturing against oral sex and the feeling of tension in the audience - if THAT kind of thing is THAT bad, then everyone wants it all the more! Most secular people are less tantalized by depravity because they don't fear the dirty devil in themselves and others and obsess over it.
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question for those who either aux pioneered pioneered
by enoughisenough inhow many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?
i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.
i never attempted it again.
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DarleneGatus
My boys were pretty high maintenance when they were young, and I didn't get much help with them, but I was guilted into auxiliary pioneering because as an elder's wife I should be seen at more field service meetings. Nobody wants young children in their car group (unless they are like Caleb and Sophia in the videos), so I would end up having to take the lead driving, doing my calls, taking notes for the territory we were working on, all the while minding kids and encouraging an adult publisher in poor mood and poor health. Finally, I reached the point where I couldn't put my kids or myself through it anymore. I took my kids to parks, the zoo, trampoline gyms, everywhere but service. The boys were happier but I felt more and more disliked in the congregation. How can you continue to support an organization that forces you to choose between the well-being of children and popularity?
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Follow to previous post,re:My niece
by Captain Schmideo2 ina few weeks back, i posted this:https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6246845349625856/never-thought-would-see-this-my-family-circle.
so, in latest developments:there was a court hearing, in which a continuance was granted for two weeks, as my bil has pleaded not guilty.
which is, in my opinion, very bad legal advice from his lawyer.
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DarleneGatus
Thanks for sharing Captain and Sea Breeze. Such a low standard for behavior within the family! No wonder two-thirds of the young people end up leaving! There need to be more support groups to help sufferers get over this trauma... Thoughts and prayers for healing and wellness.
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Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture
by Nathan Natas insee: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.
"senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".
the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".
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DarleneGatus
If the worst sin a person can commit is NOT to believe, then a person who commits even the vilest of sins remains in a blessed state due to continuing to believe... I am so disgusted.