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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

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  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  _Morpheus, I'll try that out and keep you posted on the information
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  Update coming for my "Satan" Study

  by Doug Mason in

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  the temple stood from about 520 bce to its destruction in 70 ce.

  it was renovated and extended during that period.

  the second half of its life also witnessed expansions and innovations in the jews’ beliefs.

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  john.prestor

  Right... that sounds kinda... fanciful.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  The consensus seems to be that $300 is way too much. I'm going to bet it's closer to 200 if that, I'm going to go check my notes to see exactly what the circuit overseer told me back in 2015. He was very forthcoming to the extent the one of the elders wives who caught the end of the conversation tried to get the information out of me.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  So guess who got the run-around today from Bethel? I got redirected to four different people, finally get to the Bethel office, guy puts me on hold for 15 minutes, and comes back with the most vague, nonsensical answer I've ever heard. We're all volunteers, we don't receive any income, no salary, we can be reimbursed. When I press for the amount of reimbursement he says that's all we can tell you. Incredible.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  It seems like from what everyone's saying that 300 sound awfully high and that the amount is probably closer to 200 if that. I'll let you know what happens when I ask tomorrow, I got home to late to call.

  JW_Researcher, that sounds... rough, to say the least. I've heard of G-Jobs, but I mean, having to work side jobs just to survive when you're working for a multi-million dollar corporation sounds pretty awful.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  Hahaha, I know, I know, the chances are pretty slight of it working, but what the hell? :P
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  3. 
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  john.prestor

  I'm going to try and call the headquarters, let's see if they give me the run around.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  Gayle, I never even thought of including inflation in my calculation but that's crucial. As to your comment, Morpheus, et me check my copy of the Circuit Overseers secret handbook and see if there's not more specific figures in there. Perhaps they make more than bethelites.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  Dozy, you're definitely right, and I don't know to take that into consideration. I guess I just need to acknowledge that and try to find some sort of figure for New York as to average rent? I'm still thinking it out.

  new boy, that's also helpful information, thank you. By the way, loved your stories of Bethel!
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  Thank you guys, so this is in line with what the Circuit Overseer told me, good. The Special Pioneer information is completely new to me, I thought they received the same 200-300, glad you mentioned that sir82. I also didn't know it varied by country fulano, that's important.

  What I'm trying to do is calculate figures as to how much a Bethelite could make outside of Bethel vs how much they make inside of Bethel to show how much the movement is saving/making off them, i.e., what exact amount it exploits from them. I'm going to use the NY minimum wage to calculate what an individual who works Bethelite hours would make outside Bethel (to my understanding, still about a 40 hour week, maybe a couple more from what I heard at an interest meeting at a convention), given how many Bethelites serve at Warwick, and then subtract what Bethelites make at Bethel from this figure (it's about 15k - 3k, so the movement saves/exploits them out of nearly 12k).