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  Antiwitnessing: cowards

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i'm downtown and i see two jws hanging out on a bench by a cart.

  i approached them and said, i saw you guys on the news, there was a child abuse cover-up in philadelphia.

  they don't respond and just look at me.

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  john.prestor

  You guys have given me food for thought, thank you. Wasanelder once, that's good advice.
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  Antiwitnessing: cowards

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i'm downtown and i see two jws hanging out on a bench by a cart.

  i approached them and said, i saw you guys on the news, there was a child abuse cover-up in philadelphia.

  they don't respond and just look at me.

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  john.prestor

  steve2, I understand your perspective and I appreciate the constructive criticism. It wasn't my intention to corner them, and I'll consider that if I engage in any "anti-witnessing" in the future. That being said, I don't agree that Morpheus "cornered" me: he threw a variety of belligerent ad hominem attacks at me that included very little of substance except attacks on my person.

  sparrowdown, I just wanted to make them aware of the movement's problem with child abuse, since the movement itself isn't making them aware of it. I don't expect them to do anything, I just don't like the movement's leadership concealing it from them.

  scratchme1010, that's fair, and I've never worked in that field so I wasn't aware of that. I just find it irritating that Jehovah's Witnesses want to go "preach the word" and then won't talk about anything of substance. Although, maybe I should expect that by now, ha.
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  Antiwitnessing: cowards

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i'm downtown and i see two jws hanging out on a bench by a cart.

  i approached them and said, i saw you guys on the news, there was a child abuse cover-up in philadelphia.

  they don't respond and just look at me.

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  john.prestor

  Morpheus, I don't appreciate your personal attacks which are malicious and false. I tried to tell two people about child abuse, that's it. Mind your own if you're going to be an ass. Ever heard of constructive criticosm? Morpheus, you don't know a thing about my self esteem, want me to make ungrounded claims about you?

  It's insane to look it up on the spot? Please, they're out there looking for conversations and yet they avoid the subject.

  I didn't shout, I didn't curse them out, I asked a simple question and got hostility back, just like I'm getting from you.

  And dunadein, why would I do something like that? A simple question on my part turns into a barrage of insults from you.
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  Antiwitnessing: cowards

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i'm downtown and i see two jws hanging out on a bench by a cart.

  i approached them and said, i saw you guys on the news, there was a child abuse cover-up in philadelphia.

  they don't respond and just look at me.

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  john.prestor

  So I'm downtown and I see two JWs hanging out on a bench by a cart. I approached them and said, I saw you guys on the news, there was a child abuse cover-up in Philadelphia. They don't respond and just look at me. I go, You don't want to talk about that? I find that disturbing. The woman says snidely, Well how could I talk about it if I haven't seen it? I said you could look it up on your phone, she was looking at her phone right there. I'll look it up later she says. I said No you won't and I walked off.

  What incredible gall.
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  What does Two witness mean for child abuse?

  by Canadian Sunshine in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i am not a jw.

  my mother in law is.

  my husband is not a jw, but he did attend with her through his child years and teen years but stopped once he was 15. his mother never made him or his siblings attend if they did not want to.i am trying to understand this organization to understand my mother in law better.

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  I don't understand why other 'witnesses' cannot count as an implicit form of 'testifying.' Isn't psychological trauma a witness to what happened? Nightmares, panic attacks? Bruising? It boggles the mind.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  _Morpheus, I'll try that out and keep you posted on the information
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  Update coming for my "Satan" Study

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the temple stood from about 520 bce to its destruction in 70 ce.

  it was renovated and extended during that period.

  the second half of its life also witnessed expansions and innovations in the jews’ beliefs.

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  john.prestor

  Right... that sounds kinda... fanciful.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  The consensus seems to be that $300 is way too much. I'm going to bet it's closer to 200 if that, I'm going to go check my notes to see exactly what the circuit overseer told me back in 2015. He was very forthcoming to the extent the one of the elders wives who caught the end of the conversation tried to get the information out of me.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  So guess who got the run-around today from Bethel? I got redirected to four different people, finally get to the Bethel office, guy puts me on hold for 15 minutes, and comes back with the most vague, nonsensical answer I've ever heard. We're all volunteers, we don't receive any income, no salary, we can be reimbursed. When I press for the amount of reimbursement he says that's all we can tell you. Incredible.
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  Bethelite statistics

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys, i'm working on a paper about exploitation amongst jehovah's witnesses ( i'm also preparing a book about jehovah's witnesses and interaction ritual theory, and another paper about jehovah's witnesses and discrimination against women).

  i'm trying to calculate as exact figures as i can concerning how much bethelites are paid.

  does anyone know the monthly stipend as of now?

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  john.prestor

  It seems like from what everyone's saying that 300 sound awfully high and that the amount is probably closer to 200 if that. I'll let you know what happens when I ask tomorrow, I got home to late to call.

  JW_Researcher, that sounds... rough, to say the least. I've heard of G-Jobs, but I mean, having to work side jobs just to survive when you're working for a multi-million dollar corporation sounds pretty awful.