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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  john.prestor

  Let me respond to the last "proof" you refer to Black.Spirit:

  The Bible answers many difficult questions, the type of questions that when not satisfactorily answered can lead a person to atheism. For example: If God is loving and all-powerful, why is there suffering and evil in the world? Why is religion so often an influence for bad rather than for good?—Titus 1:16.

  Indeed, the Bible does "answer" these questions. But that it provides answers to these questions does not prove its answers are correct. A 3rd century religion called Manichaeism similarly claimed to provide "answers" to such questions: God allows suffering in order to free imprisoned light trapped in darkness via an elaborate cosmic plan, and religion is a force for bad because the previous prophets (Jesus, the Buddha, Zoroaster) never wrote down their own teaching.

  Why don't you believe in Manichaeism? It provides answers too!
  
  
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  john.prestor

  I'll second that pale.emperor. God can stop by my place anytime, I'll brew us a pot of coffee.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  john.prestor

  And 11 hours of field service, pretty successful day if you ask me.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  john.prestor

  Haha, Lord. Just kinda confirms what we've been saying: no original thoughts.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  john.prestor

  Is he just copying and pasting Watchtower articles? His responses have nothing to do with what we post... He's kinda like Ask Jeeves, you never really get a response to your question, just results that are vaguely related.
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  Why Do People Oppose Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by BlackSpirit in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jesus christ, the son of the most high god, jehovah has this to say: "if the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.

  if you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own.

  now because you are no part of the world, but i have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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  john.prestor

  I don't care for Jehovah's Witnesses because they are arrogant (condemning other faiths, higher education, the UN, etc. in often rather vicious terms), surveil and harshly discipline their members, deceive or at the very least withhold information from new and potential members, etc. They have no proof for their claims and, like many other religions, are persecuted, which proves nothing in and of itself.

  God is inviting us through you? Sounds like the height of narcissism. Think for yourself and live your own life.
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  Story out of Sacramento demon possessed pioneers

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyone heard anything?.

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  john.prestor

  Sherlock strikes back.
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  Antiwitnessing: cowards

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i'm downtown and i see two jws hanging out on a bench by a cart.

  i approached them and said, i saw you guys on the news, there was a child abuse cover-up in philadelphia.

  they don't respond and just look at me.

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  john.prestor

  You guys have given me food for thought, thank you. Wasanelder once, that's good advice.
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  Antiwitnessing: cowards

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i'm downtown and i see two jws hanging out on a bench by a cart.

  i approached them and said, i saw you guys on the news, there was a child abuse cover-up in philadelphia.

  they don't respond and just look at me.

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  john.prestor

  steve2, I understand your perspective and I appreciate the constructive criticism. It wasn't my intention to corner them, and I'll consider that if I engage in any "anti-witnessing" in the future. That being said, I don't agree that Morpheus "cornered" me: he threw a variety of belligerent ad hominem attacks at me that included very little of substance except attacks on my person.

  sparrowdown, I just wanted to make them aware of the movement's problem with child abuse, since the movement itself isn't making them aware of it. I don't expect them to do anything, I just don't like the movement's leadership concealing it from them.

  scratchme1010, that's fair, and I've never worked in that field so I wasn't aware of that. I just find it irritating that Jehovah's Witnesses want to go "preach the word" and then won't talk about anything of substance. Although, maybe I should expect that by now, ha.
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  Antiwitnessing: cowards

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so i'm downtown and i see two jws hanging out on a bench by a cart.

  i approached them and said, i saw you guys on the news, there was a child abuse cover-up in philadelphia.

  they don't respond and just look at me.

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  john.prestor

  Morpheus, I don't appreciate your personal attacks which are malicious and false. I tried to tell two people about child abuse, that's it. Mind your own if you're going to be an ass. Ever heard of constructive criticosm? Morpheus, you don't know a thing about my self esteem, want me to make ungrounded claims about you?

  It's insane to look it up on the spot? Please, they're out there looking for conversations and yet they avoid the subject.

  I didn't shout, I didn't curse them out, I asked a simple question and got hostility back, just like I'm getting from you.

  And dunadein, why would I do something like that? A simple question on my part turns into a barrage of insults from you.