Posts by john.prestor

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Same Talks Again and Again

by Akid48 in

hey i’m back i know it’s been a long time since i’ve posted on the form but a lot things have been happening so i haven’t had much time to post.. ive been 14 for awhile now makes me happy because i’m getting closer to being able to get a job and work my way out of this.. i have meetings on saturdays now which is horrible because i rather have it on sunday because it’s already a sad day because i got to go to school the next day.three of our public talks have had different brothers saying the same thing talking about the signs of the end days.the thing that gets me is when they always try and bank on the earthquake part i mean i’m really into science so i already knew a lot about plate tectonics sea floor spreading etc but you get taught this in school.with plates always moving divergent convergent transform etc there will be earthquakes it’s the effect of plates moving against or rubing on each or going back into the mantle(subduction zones) it happens.so when there’s a report in japan of a lot of earthquakes it must be the end times!no japan is located on four plates it’s going to experience big earthquakes.. i don’t know that just gets under my skins when they try and say it’s the end days because of the earth having natural things happen like plate tectonics is something that’s been happening recently no we might have gotten our hands on the technology to spot earthquakes recently but this has been happening for millions of years.. speaking of years i hope you all have a great 2019 and i’ll definitely post more of my thoughts this year..

john.prestor

Right, it's just like when they send you to jw.org to get your questions answered: I'm sure most people don't bother to go and I'm sure at some level Jehovah's Witnesses know they pass the buck by sending them there. Same thing with the video: the producer/script writer whoever hopes the audience will fill in the blanks and assume that the JW explains it to the householder and voila, happy ending, they start studying the Bible, they get baptized! It's a fill in the blank religion, they leave a lot up to you that way they don't make claims that you can disprove. Can you prove Armageddon isn't coming "soon"? No, just like you can't prove that a bar which hangs a sign which says Free beer tomorrow won't actually give out free beer tomorrow, right? Can you prove Armageddon didn't come in 1975? Yeah, it didn't come in 1975, we're still here. It's sneaky, it's insidious. It's very likely intentional, at least at some level, on the part of the Governing Body.

Seriously kid: run for the hills. Take it from someone who knows.

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Same Talks Again and Again

by Akid48 in

hey i’m back i know it’s been a long time since i’ve posted on the form but a lot things have been happening so i haven’t had much time to post.. ive been 14 for awhile now makes me happy because i’m getting closer to being able to get a job and work my way out of this.. i have meetings on saturdays now which is horrible because i rather have it on sunday because it’s already a sad day because i got to go to school the next day.three of our public talks have had different brothers saying the same thing talking about the signs of the end days.the thing that gets me is when they always try and bank on the earthquake part i mean i’m really into science so i already knew a lot about plate tectonics sea floor spreading etc but you get taught this in school.with plates always moving divergent convergent transform etc there will be earthquakes it’s the effect of plates moving against or rubing on each or going back into the mantle(subduction zones) it happens.so when there’s a report in japan of a lot of earthquakes it must be the end times!no japan is located on four plates it’s going to experience big earthquakes.. i don’t know that just gets under my skins when they try and say it’s the end days because of the earth having natural things happen like plate tectonics is something that’s been happening recently no we might have gotten our hands on the technology to spot earthquakes recently but this has been happening for millions of years.. speaking of years i hope you all have a great 2019 and i’ll definitely post more of my thoughts this year..

john.prestor

Let me tell you something a mentor of mine once said: It's not supposed to work on you. Those videos are meant to impress and move people emotionally, not convince them intellectually. The Governing Body (they give the final say on everything, let's be honest) does that because evolution makes too much sense and they just don't understand evolution well enough to explain it without looking idiotic.

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Same Talks Again and Again

by Akid48 in

hey i’m back i know it’s been a long time since i’ve posted on the form but a lot things have been happening so i haven’t had much time to post.. ive been 14 for awhile now makes me happy because i’m getting closer to being able to get a job and work my way out of this.. i have meetings on saturdays now which is horrible because i rather have it on sunday because it’s already a sad day because i got to go to school the next day.three of our public talks have had different brothers saying the same thing talking about the signs of the end days.the thing that gets me is when they always try and bank on the earthquake part i mean i’m really into science so i already knew a lot about plate tectonics sea floor spreading etc but you get taught this in school.with plates always moving divergent convergent transform etc there will be earthquakes it’s the effect of plates moving against or rubing on each or going back into the mantle(subduction zones) it happens.so when there’s a report in japan of a lot of earthquakes it must be the end times!no japan is located on four plates it’s going to experience big earthquakes.. i don’t know that just gets under my skins when they try and say it’s the end days because of the earth having natural things happen like plate tectonics is something that’s been happening recently no we might have gotten our hands on the technology to spot earthquakes recently but this has been happening for millions of years.. speaking of years i hope you all have a great 2019 and i’ll definitely post more of my thoughts this year..

john.prestor

You saw through it at 14? You're destined for greatness kid, believe it, be it. I saw through it around 16. I got out. I made my own way. You make yours and don't stop until you get exactly where you wanna be.

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Capitalizing names

by john.prestor in

just a random thought here but does anyone else notice than when the name "elder" or "circuit overseer" appears in the organization's magazines and books they're always lower case even though they're proper nouns and should be elder and circuit overseer... but branch committee member, governing body helper, governing body member, they get to be capitalized.

another subtle indication of how the governing body and other high-ranking elites see themselves, i think.

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john.prestor

That's a fair point, and I respect the fact that you know how the Baptist faith works. It's less subtle about the power dynamic and the status, but JWs kinda submerge it, it lurks below the surface like an alligator, hides in the implicit like a name you can't quite remember. Thanks for drawing that out.

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Has Anyone Seen This?

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

there is a letter doing thr rounds in a few places.its from a jdub in ntherlands pimi, who is beseeching all jdubs about the child abuse issues.

the letter is quite long so do not want to post it as i want only those people who may be interested to read it all,to have it ,and not want people to just ignore it coz of its lengthness.

if anyone wants to have a read just pm me.

john.prestor

Hell yes they will. Just a matter of time now.

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Elders: Which legal office?

by betterdaze in

there are two legal offices listed on the jw.org website.. united stateswatchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.office of the general counsel100 watchtower drivepatterson ny 12563-9204united states+1 [email protected].

world headquartersjehovah’s witnesses, office of the general counsel1 kings drivetuxedo park ny 10987-5500united states+1 [email protected].

to which location does one report child abusers and their enablers?

john.prestor

Elders contact the 'service desk' at headquarters, you call them on the phone and that way you can talk about the child sex abuse allegation and you won't leave a paper trail. It's in Shepherd the Flock of God, I think. Do you have a PDF copy? PM me if you don't.

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Emotional Moment...

by babygirl30 in

jw
friends

yesterday i was looking to share a pic with a friend of mine, and i swore it was in my photo albums (i have 3).

so i start going through them, and i see so many jw pics!

i had a huge group of friends when i was 'in', and so there is just pic after pic of assemblies, dinners, game nights, rbc projects, my family and the house i grew up in, people from the hall, etc.

john.prestor

Well said, zeb. That's the life they offer you: their literature, read up they say, and dream about paradise when paradise is right outside your door, spread out to the sky. You're not rambling, WilluDFme: you're getting real with us. Don't stop.

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Emotional Moment...

by babygirl30 in

jw
friends

yesterday i was looking to share a pic with a friend of mine, and i swore it was in my photo albums (i have 3).

so i start going through them, and i see so many jw pics!

i had a huge group of friends when i was 'in', and so there is just pic after pic of assemblies, dinners, game nights, rbc projects, my family and the house i grew up in, people from the hall, etc.

john.prestor

I had a moment like that on New Year's Eve, too. Those kind of moments are deeply personal and meaningful, look how far you've come, look at who you are now. That's something to be proud of. You should be proud of yourself.

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Capitalizing names

by john.prestor in

just a random thought here but does anyone else notice than when the name "elder" or "circuit overseer" appears in the organization's magazines and books they're always lower case even though they're proper nouns and should be elder and circuit overseer... but branch committee member, governing body helper, governing body member, they get to be capitalized.

another subtle indication of how the governing body and other high-ranking elites see themselves, i think.

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john.prestor

I mean I get what you're getting at but do you get what I mean about the ranking it subtly constructs? The kinda comparative thing? Other faiths capitalize Elder, the Mormons for example, and most Elders aren't that old.

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New JW phrase: bouquet of truth

by ohnightdivine in

i heard it from someone who attended the latest wt study, and quickly posted it with - you guessed it - a picture of a lovely flower bouquet.

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"how big is your bouquet of truth?".

john.prestor

I love how they dress up their scare tactics and their empty promises. Why can't they be them, own them, be honest with themselves and others? So cowardly. Like sparky1 said, bouquet of truth my ass.