I think you're right DesirousofChange, the kingdom can't really do it anymore, they've been predicting it for so long it's not exciting anymore, so they got to rile them up by feeding into their persecution complex and at the same time making them feel special, the government's are going to come after us most of all, others yeah, but mainly us, that's how meaningful we are.
john.prestor
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So I read the the gog of magog chapters from the new restore true worship book...
by nowwhat? inand what a heaping nonsensical freddie franz like bunch of crap.
as i told my pimi brother.
it's all based on assumptions and assertions that the ezekiel gog of magog account has a 2nd fulfillment in our day.
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john.prestor
rolliepollie, thanks for clarifying that. People come on here to preach sometimes and it gets old. An inquiring mind on the other hand... welcome aboard.
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john.prestor
rolliepollie, you ask some provocative questions but I'm beginning to get the sense that you got some kind of ulterior motive here, am I right? Do you want to convert us to one faith or another? Just be honest with me here.
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Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Ever Do Anything For Anyone But Themselves?
by minimus ini was thinking of how witnesses were always admonished to take care of their own before they should ever help a worldly neighbor.
i don’t think they ever do anything for the community unless it’s a benefit to them..
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john.prestor
Informally, yeah, sometimes they individually help someone out, buy them groceries, cut fire wood, that kinda thing just from what I heard in person and on here. But formally, no, they don't do much of anything beyond teach a few people to read and write so they can convert them, and maybe repair a roof or two after a disaster, but sometimes they ask for the insurance money afterwards, from what I've read on here, which I gotta say is pretty... sleazy, I think that's the right word.
It's an isolated, isolating faith. That's what it is. They care about their own, sorta, and write the rest of us off. That comes across very clearly.
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"Never stop your enemy when he's making a mistake" - Napoleon
by JeffT inso yesterday when i went to the library there were three older gentlemen in suits standing around the front door.
i spotted the stand with the magazines a second or two later.
they were talking among themselves, totally ignoring everybody walking past them.
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john.prestor
JeffT, I see the value in that approach. You know you, sounds like you made the right decision in the moment.
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john.prestor
I'm with Phizzy on this one, once someone fools you it's harder for someone else to fool you later on. They made us empty promises, beat us down emotionally, people talk about that a lot on this forum and rightly so, the Elders making them feel like they never did enough for Jehovah's "one true organization," worrying they would die a horrible death at Armageddon, feeling guilty or ashamed for minor "sins" or doubting the Governing Body. In my case the Baptist pastor I heard for years did the same kind of thing just with different promises, instead of Armageddon he always told us Jesus would come back from heaven any day now and rapture us with the sound of a trumpet and an archangel's call, he shamed us for thinking lustful thoughts, told us we wouldn't get into heaven if we fucked before marriage.
Here's what it comes down to: fooled me once, shame on you. Fooled me twice, shame on me. And in the words of the Who, "[I] won't get fooled again."
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john.prestor
No, I don't. Never found a good reason tool and I looked a long time.
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JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal
by jwleaks inyep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.
i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.
to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.
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I follow, you're saying that they sold the property first and then provided a bond so the court gave them permission to sell property they already sold, which the court didn't know of course. How crafty, how clever... -
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Anthony Morris's talk "Beware of the Birdcatcher. " He does tend to exaggerate just a little
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmassachusetts saturday afternoon fall 2005. .
here is a talk that anthony morris gave at a local congregation in 2005, titled ''beware of the birdcatcher.
'' he has everyone laughing in stitches in the first fifteen minutes.
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john.prestor
Listener, youre right, it's possible he's just repeating a story second or third or even fourth hand that really did happen, or that both left the faith eventually. But it's just so contrived, so convenient, and it sounds like so many other contrived, convenient stories these people tell. Why wouldn't he want to put names to that? Why wouldn't they, the people who supposedly did all this, want to put their names to that? They have nothing to be afraid of, it's Britain.
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I am a proud Jehovah's Witness Defender
by Matthew Jefferson inmy name is matthew j and i have just ended my study with the jehovah's witnesses.
no, i did not stop studying because i believe the jehovah's witnesses are a 'cult', i left due to the minor beliefs that i hold that remain separate from the organization.
i called my elder who is still an amazing man and great counselor, affirming that i do not wish to continue my studying.
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john.prestor
I'm thinking Matthew is a Jehovah's Witness who joined under this absurd cover story because he knew if he owned up to being an apologist we would take him even less seriously. Anybody with me?