I don't want to be too down on the man because everybody likes staying in a nice hotel now and then... But a man who criticizes others of his own faith for enjoying worldly luxuries, and then pulls something like that? Yeah, that's pretty rank hypocrisy. It's particularly bad when most Jehovah's Witnesses, at least in the United States, make below average income, and the Governing Body bears some responsibility for that since they encourage people to work part-time and not go to college. And I'm sure he didn't pay for his room by saving up his Bethel stipend like a kid dropping quarters into a piggy bank, I'm sure it came to him gratis out of 'voluntary donations' ( I can't get over that phrase, what else could they be, coerced donations?) to 'the worldwide work'.
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Interesting Find
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inscandal in malta.
by paul j. bonanno and kent steinhaug.
it was, and still is, a fact well advertised by jehovah's witnesses (hereafter referred to as jw) that every member who works in their general headquarters (which is located in brooklyn, new york, america), and their other worldwide offices, receives only room, board and a few dollars per month.
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Legal concerns about: "picnics"
by Darth FayDehr in"congregation picnic"2.
"congregation gathering"3.
"spontaneous gathering of jws”.
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john.prestor
Who thinks about this kind of thing, like why would your mind even go there? I get it if it's congregation bungee jumping or congregation skydiving but just a routine social gathering in a park or something, what's going to happen there? You guys are right, it comes down to money and liability, something they think about more and more these days...
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Is Russia "right" about presecuting Jehovah's Witnesses?
by iliketreasure injehovah's witnesses are presecuted in russia.
on par with the is and other terroristic groups.
it happened when the anti-extremism laws were extended to non-violent groups.. i don't believe that russia actually cares for the well-being of their citizens with this move and probably merely a law to stop other political forces (and the jws are one in a way, since their gather authority over large groups of people and also have their own political and judicial institutiona), but are they right about it anyway?.
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john.prestor
I agree with Simon. People can and should believe what they want.
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Child Sexual Abuse: The Organization Oozes Self-Congratulations over Non-JWs Tireless Work
by steve2 inwow - the may watchtower study edition is out.
who could have anticipated entire watchtower study articles devoted to child sexual abuse?
an appreciative shout out to all the people who worked tirelessly over so very many, many years to call the organization to account over its defiantly self-serving policies and practices on responding top allegations of child sexual abuse.
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john.prestor
Exactly, we shouldn't give them any credit for some pictures they printed in a magazine until we see hard evidence they actually fixed the problems the ARC highlighted. Why include men at all in the preliminary investigation? Could be wrong, and by all means the victim should get to decide themselves, but I don't think most women want to talk about their sexual abuse with men. People don't like to talk about this stuff in general, its embarrassing and makes you remember things you don't want to remember. And from other reports I've read on this forum Elders sometimes ask questions that come across as voyeuristic at worst or invasive at best.
Point being: they need to listen to McClellan and Stewart, let women talk to female victims and determine whether someone indeed abused them (the vast majority of the time people who make allegations like that tell the truth, of course) let men decide the punishment (they really should allow women to be Elders but we know they won't budge on that one so there's no point insisting on it)
And finally, if anybody does have a copy of that letter sent to Australian congregations PM me
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2019 Elders Manual and a Whole Lot More!
by Atlantis insingle zipped folderhttps://we.tl/t-uiqj87wimd.
2019-02-02-musical preludeshttps://we.tl/t-zyfpnodizd.
s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdfhttps://we.tl/t-i9qamx3s0q.
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john.prestor
Atlantis, when I got ready to leave for work I saw that they released a new Shepherd, and when I got home after work just now, I found you already got us covered. You're the best, man
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"Straining the gnat, and gulping the camel"
by stuckinarut2 inwhile watching the annual meeting videos on the official jw channel, i was struck with this scriptural expression:.
"they strain out the gnat, while gulping the camel" matt 23:24. this section was full of condemnation for the wicked religious leaders who were focusing on minor silly things rather than deep important topics.. the amount of silly things the gb focuses on is amazing!
they pedantically focus on things like proper pronunciation of words, (such as s lett joking about how isiah is best said), while missing major issues and topics like the proper handling of child abuse issues, or the court cases being lost worldwide!.
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john.prestor
They're in their own little world, figuratively and literally.
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New Elders Manual Released . Can anyone confirm ?
by Not_Culty inhttps://old.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/an4bnp/new_elders_manual_released/.
post text.. "announcements for february say, in part:.
shepherd and shepherd addendum: we are pleased to inform you that “shepherd the flock of god”—1 peter 5:2 has been completely revised.
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Child Sexual Abuse: The Organization Oozes Self-Congratulations over Non-JWs Tireless Work
by steve2 inwow - the may watchtower study edition is out.
who could have anticipated entire watchtower study articles devoted to child sexual abuse?
an appreciative shout out to all the people who worked tirelessly over so very many, many years to call the organization to account over its defiantly self-serving policies and practices on responding top allegations of child sexual abuse.
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john.prestor
But see, it shows a mature sister sitting in with the Elder, but do we have any kind of confirmation that they actually changed that policy? Or is that just window-dressing like usual with these people? Until I see a letter to the Body of Elders or they reissue Shepherd, I'm going to assume Sisters still can't sit in on that. Besides, the arc told them to let Sisters talk to Sisters, not a sister and a brother. I'm not mad at the OP, it's just how long does it take these people to understand the obvious?
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Anyone every heard anything about your own blood?
by Tobyjones262 ini was wondering if there was any policy from the cult about your own blood in you cut your finger and put it in your mouth out of reflex ect.
what if any is the position of this?
i always thought the amount of blood is not the real issue, even a drop would be a sin?.
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john.prestor
Ah, blood is blood, it's in our veins.
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The Wisdom of The Elders
by minimus inthey are touted as real spiritual men.
the have knowledge, understanding and wisdom.
you should consult with them before you make important decisions.
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john.prestor
The Watchtower study conductors genuinely impressed me with how they spoke and dressed and carried themselves, they came across as charismatic and kind and pretty quick with an answer to anything. The other Elders, not so much. Most came across as ordinary men, some seemed pleasant enough, some gave off a kinda... petty, arrogant vibe, I don't know how else to put it.