Olig, did you just open a can of worms. Be ready to laugh and let your jaw drop repeatedly.
john.prestor
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Electronic Frontier Foundation v Watch Tower Society
by Corney in[disclaimer: the headline is slightly misleading since the eff itself doesn't participate in the case, so read more below].
it's not a secret that during the last two years watchtower obtained nearly 40 dmca subpoenas requiring google, facebook, instagram, twitter, soundcloud, scribd, reddit and other isps to provide personal information of users that allegedly infringed the society's copyright.. since subpoena proceeding is ex parte, almost all the requests were granted.. but one of the affected users contacted, on advice of youtube's legal team, the electronic frontier foundation (eff), and the foundation found a law firm ready to represent him pro bono, namely garvey schubert barer:.
youtube's legal department emailed the user on or about july 10, 2018, five days before the subpoena's return date, stating that it would comply with the subpoena unless it received a file-stamped motion to quash "or other type of formal objection before july 20, 2018.
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Did Jesus exist? Probably not
by The 12 Apostates inthreads about this have been made before, but none have been made for a few years.
i was very much on the fence with this one, i never really cared.
but i became curious recently, having had a few interactions with street preachers.
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john.prestor
We don't actually know any of that. We know little about the oral tradition of early Christians because the only records we wrote at that time containing such information that the authors claim they received from specific people (two elders named Johm and Aristo/Aristion) both mysteriously vanished, that being the 2nd century 'Exposition on the Sayings of the Lord' by Papias of Hierapolis and Hegesippius' 'History.' Fascinating ain't it? We know Matthew and Luke based their gospels on earlier written sources, that being Mark and something else (Q probably) but we don't know that Mark did, he might have made it all up for all we know. Did he? I doubt it. A story about a guy who gets himself killed when he plots to take down the Romans doesn't really sound that crazy. Happened all the time back then. The fact that we know about some of the earlier or later false Messiahs from Josephus, while a Christian obviously and all but nakedly interpolated the 'Testimonium Flavious,' only shows how little impact Jesus really had when he came charging into Capernaum that long ago afternoon.
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Did Jesus exist? Probably not
by The 12 Apostates inthreads about this have been made before, but none have been made for a few years.
i was very much on the fence with this one, i never really cared.
but i became curious recently, having had a few interactions with street preachers.
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john.prestor
I'm gonna chime in with Alfred Lousy, the critical Catholic theologian. He claims Jesus came into Capernaum one day, announced the arrival of God's kingdom from heaven, and riled people up enough that he convinced a few of them to go with him to Jerusalem to wait for it. When he got there, he denounced the wrong people and they killed him after they discovered that he made statements implying he saw himself as the Messiah, i.e., threatened Roman rule. That's it, that Jesus. The only important thing he ever did in his life might have taken no more than a week or two.
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New Textbook For Elders
by Lost in the fog ini have to say that i found item 3 on the above page raised questions in my mind.
if an elder is deleted presumably for wrongdoing the hard copy text book is taken off him and destroyed.
but who ensures that any electronic copies of the book in his possession are deleted?
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john.prestor
Somebody's gonna get a 'shepherding call'...
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Yearbook 2014 NWT is The Finest Translation of the Bible Available to Mankind. 😇
by Fabian inthe is on page 4 of the 2014 yearbook.. a letter from the governing body.
how delighted we are to write you at the beginning of this momentous year!
by late 2014, a whole century will have passed since our beloved king jesus christ began ruling in the midst of his enemies.—ps.
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john.prestor
Do these people ever get tired of tooting their own horn? The finest translation of the Bible ever, how the hell do they know that? If somebody else won't stroke their egos they stroke it themselves (yep, that's a double entendre)
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john.prestor
Witnesss I can't imagine anyone turning down an offer like that. Outside the organization, it's like an offer to tour with a rock band, or become the CEO of a company. It's a once-in-a-lifetime offer that Jehovah's Witness elite chase for decades. -
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Past 12 months, #watchtower has obtained more than 36 unique subpoenas
by Not_Culty inhttps://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1095514606657851392.
"in the past 12 months, #watchtower has obtained more than 36 unique subpoenas to identify the people who have posted their documents, leaked videos, & images from their publications.
this #watchhunt is a coordinated effort to locate & punish the leak sources.".
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john.prestor
Spiral, totally with you. The Governing Body sure act like and talk like narcissists, especially these days with all their harping on remaining loyal in thought, like don't even question them in your own head kind of thing, that's how much they hate criticism, they can't stand the thought that somebody even criticizes them internally.
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New Textbook For Elders
by Lost in the fog ini have to say that i found item 3 on the above page raised questions in my mind.
if an elder is deleted presumably for wrongdoing the hard copy text book is taken off him and destroyed.
but who ensures that any electronic copies of the book in his possession are deleted?
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john.prestor
I see your point, I mean they can't and don't check into whether the guy actually deletes the pdfs or not. But I think unless the guy intends to leave already, and that's why he stepped down or got kicked off the Body of Elders he'll just follow these instructions because the faithful slave knows best of course, gotta listen obey and be blessed, etc.
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Past 12 months, #watchtower has obtained more than 36 unique subpoenas
by Not_Culty inhttps://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1095514606657851392.
"in the past 12 months, #watchtower has obtained more than 36 unique subpoenas to identify the people who have posted their documents, leaked videos, & images from their publications.
this #watchhunt is a coordinated effort to locate & punish the leak sources.".
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john.prestor
They're running out of fingers to plug all the leaks in their ship...
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My Bible Study Conductor's Letter to Me
by ohnightdivine inrecently, i wrote a sister, my bible study conductor, an email just telling her that i thought of her, and i thanked her for being a part of some milestones in my life many many years ago.
(for those who are reading my post for the first time, i was a very impressionable teenager at that time and i had the chance to live in their country for a while, spent much time with her, got to know her way of living, and essentially she became my life's mentor.
closer to me than family.
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john.prestor
It's not the translation, let's not take away from the fact that the woman wrote you one long extended guilt trip.
I get it, it's hard to move on, hard to accept this person doesn't care about you unless you accept her faith, which really means doesnt care about you. I met people like that too when I studied Jehovah's Witnesses, sweet older ladies that called me their pseudo-grandson or called themselves my grandmother, but the truth is if I told them how I really feel, what I really think or don't think, they wouldn't like it and I bet you good money they'd either cut me off or distance themselves at least, or try the same approach this woman tried with you.
Don't let this woman shame you into submission. Shame is toxic, it crushes out spirit, weighs us down. To hell with her.