Posts by john.prestor

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Awake! No. 2 2018 on marriage

by john.prestor in

so i'm sitting here at the laundromat waiting for the bus, there's a kingdom hall across the street and somebody must come in here regularly cause i found about five different magazines hanging out on a counter by the door and three different jw.org business cards pinned to a bulletin board.

i picked up an awake!

for the hell of it, i could use a good laugh, and i ran across this right away in the article '12 secrets of successful families', yeah, you can probably tell where this is going:.

john.prestor

To me it comes down to what they want and why they write something like this. They want to make people weak and submissive, it's not just about women, they try to make the men like that too, and it means people walk all over you becauss you never stand up for yourself, you dont think you should, you don't know it's an option. The Baptists raised me like that and it took me ages to figure out why people harassed me on the street and walked in front of me or outright made fun of me. When I stopped acting submissive and weak, I started acting more dominant, and now people show me respect.

Their advice sets people up for abuse. That's why it upset me.

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Would this scenario make a totally devout JW renounce their faith?

by BourneIdentity in

we’ve all heard the stories of someone pointing a gun at a jw telling them to renounce their faith or die.

some live to tell about it, others don’t.

but what makes it seem easier to stomach is it just involves that person, no one else.

john.prestor

It's impossible to say the situation won't ever occur *shrug*

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JWs - Followers of Men - 100% Proof

by BourneIdentity in

for those that are convinced they are not following man, but jehovah, this example is 100% proof they follow men.

if they twist this to say they don't follow man, well, there is no hope for them.. the bible is very clear to honor your father and mother, it was and is so important, it's listed as one of the 10 commandments.

when that parent leaves the truth, either due to disassociation or being disfellowshipped, the child shuns them for life.

john.prestor

I always felt this sense of unreality when I would sit at a circuit assembly and some Elder would get up there on the platform and start talking about how they don't listen to men, as they listen to men telling them they don't listen to men.

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Awake! No. 2 2018 on marriage

by john.prestor in

so i'm sitting here at the laundromat waiting for the bus, there's a kingdom hall across the street and somebody must come in here regularly cause i found about five different magazines hanging out on a counter by the door and three different jw.org business cards pinned to a bulletin board.

i picked up an awake!

for the hell of it, i could use a good laugh, and i ran across this right away in the article '12 secrets of successful families', yeah, you can probably tell where this is going:.

john.prestor

I trashed them, those things are... sneaky.

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Awake! No. 2 2018 on marriage

by john.prestor in

so i'm sitting here at the laundromat waiting for the bus, there's a kingdom hall across the street and somebody must come in here regularly cause i found about five different magazines hanging out on a counter by the door and three different jw.org business cards pinned to a bulletin board.

i picked up an awake!

for the hell of it, i could use a good laugh, and i ran across this right away in the article '12 secrets of successful families', yeah, you can probably tell where this is going:.

john.prestor

It's allow yourself to be wronged, I miswrote that.

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Awake! No. 2 2018 on marriage

by john.prestor in

so i'm sitting here at the laundromat waiting for the bus, there's a kingdom hall across the street and somebody must come in here regularly cause i found about five different magazines hanging out on a counter by the door and three different jw.org business cards pinned to a bulletin board.

i picked up an awake!

for the hell of it, i could use a good laugh, and i ran across this right away in the article '12 secrets of successful families', yeah, you can probably tell where this is going:.

john.prestor

So I'm sitting here at the laundromat waiting for the bus, there's a Kingdom Hall across the street and somebody must come in here regularly cause I found about five different magazines hanging out on a counter by the door and three different jw.org business cards pinned to a bulletin board. I picked up an Awake! for the hell of it, I could use a good laugh, and I ran across this right away in the article '12 secrets of successful families', yeah, you can probably tell where this is going:

For couples: Commitment

If you are committed to your marriage, you allow yourself to be wrong. You are quick to forgive and quick to apologize. You view problems as obstacles, not deal breakers. -Micah

What do you mean allow yourself to be wronged, you mean let your husband smack you around if you're Selma, or stay with him even if you fear for your life and safety like it said in a recent Watchtower? And why would you apologize if someone wrongs you, those two don't make any sense, if you did nothing wrong you shouldn't apologize. What horrendous advice for women coming from another one of their anonymous source, Micah, let's call her Andrea that's how legit she is.

The advice might as well amount to Lay down and take it. Fuck these people.

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The Classification Sheep & Goats Come From Reaction To The Good News Preached By Members Of The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society

by Brokeback Watchtower in

it seems that the more one analyzes the wt premise that people are being judged by jehoho and his angelic lackeys on their responses to the messages they proclaim as good news of the kingdom(destruction of all the governments of the world by god's kingdom), the more flaws one sees in such an arrangement.. firstly why would jehoho judge people as worthy of everlasting annihilation because they don't respond appropriately to an organization's membership drives house to house service calls?

surely jehoho needs to take into account that they have a very bad child abuse problem that sullies their reputation as his representatives, surely an intelligent reasonable almighty god would find this a very poor touch stone to judge people on especially when their everlasting life is at stake.. all these court cases of child molestation lawsuits brought against wt corporation we now see being broadcast all over the internet should make an intelligent god like jehoho see that this is a very bad idea or way to judge people and that all the people classified as sheep with this process will just get you a bunch of gullible desperate people without any critical thinking(which when you think of it pretty much describes a sheep).. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucju-ey1tyg&t=68s.

john.prestor

I remember seeing an Our Kingdom Ministry prompt where it encouraged Witnesses to explain what you just described, that Jesus would judge them worthy of survival or not depending on how they responded to the door-to-door preaching. Can you just imagine going up to someone and saying that on their porch or on the street.

'Good morning, how you doing today? You better listen up and do what I tell you cuz if you don't Gods gonna kill you any day now.'

It's such an obvious threat. That's what it.

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Disfellowshipping - abusing our evolutionary development

by Anony Mous in

i just saw the video from kursgezagt on loneliness and it points out the biological reasons for social interaction, it also points out the reason we experience social pain in loneliness, basically, because in the recent past (a few hundred years ago) isolation meant you were very likely to die so our bodies and brains adapted to know when the circumstances of this dangerous situation emerged.. this immediately made me think about the disfellowshipping and social isolation that jw’s practice - it’s basically abusing our own evolutionary biology against ourselves and puts you in a cycle of loneliness, depression with the only ‘cure’ going back to the acceptance of the social group and accepting their ‘quirks’..

john.prestor

Yes, the leaders of religious groups like Jehovah's Witnesses take advantage of the fact that we're a social species, a social animal. I think you're 100% right.

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