That's interesting Atlantis. I never saw those in the eastern United States, wonder if that's just that hall or a broader trend starting. Why get rid of the literature counter? That's one way ministerial servants get to look important, everybody comes up to talk to them to get their magazines.
john.prestor
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Can This be Verified?
by Atlantis incan this be verified?
just speculation so far, so i was just wondering.. .
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/bawoeu/getting_rid_of_the_literature_counter_all_together/ .
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Watchtower analysis on Tony Morris
by corruptgirl ini never post on here.
i am sanchy's wife.
i posted my coming out story about 3 yrs ago.
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john.prestor
A clever hoax... What? Why?
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"ToMo3's liquor purchase video actually PROVES Jehovah's direction!"
by stuckinarut2 inok, so i played the game of putting on my jw apologetic cap for a moment, and thought of how a devout jw could rationalize this whole liquor buying situation.. they could say:.
"this actually proves that jehovah is guiding his organization!!
he was bringing this activity of tomo3 to light, and it would also prove to be a loyalty test for all jws, to see if they would be stumbled right out of the truth!".
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john.prestor
I think they're more likely to go with the whole it didn't happen that's apostate lies.
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Prophesies how would you respond
by enigma1863 insomeone who thinks im an elder:"hey.
thank you for responding.
there are prophecies in zechariah about the restoration of a physical israel.
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john.prestor
I'm not really sure what you're looking for but I mean, I don't accept biblical prophecies, there's evidence people wrote them down after the fact under fake names, half of the prophecies aren't even prophecies.
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Is there a new Date by the Watchtower for the End of System?
by William Penwell innot sure if this topic has being covered recently.. my son asked me a question if the jw's have in the recent months being pushing a new end date to the system?
he was telling me about how his mother has being on him again about the urgency of the end of this system of things and he needs to do something asap.
i told him i am not aware of any new dates as i have being away from the cult for over 20 years.
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john.prestor
A while back in a morning worship talk Kenneth Flodin hinted at 2040, if you can find the clip you should watch it, he almost smirks right he says it watch his lips.
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Watchtower analysis on Tony Morris
by corruptgirl ini never post on here.
i am sanchy's wife.
i posted my coming out story about 3 yrs ago.
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john.prestor
Are there worse things the guy could have done? Yeah, there definitely are. But the OPs right, the Governing Body talks about stuff like this all the time, not even giving off the appearance of evil kind of stuff. Personally, it's the extravagance of it that bothers me... and I'm not going to lie, I like a good whiskey. But I also don't constantly beg people for money under the pretense of building Kingdom Halls in the global south, or ask kids to give up ice cream to pay my bills.
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The JW funeral sales pitch . . .
by BereanThinker7 inso recently i attended a jw funeral.
i've been awake and faded for a bit now and so i already have realized the strangeness that is a jw funeral/memorial talk because its basically just a sales pitch to those attending that are non jws using a twist on the christian resurrection hope and barely speaks about the departed.
here's the thing that i noticed the that got me wondering, the pitch, at least at this talk, is given under the guise that it is what the fallen person wanted to be spoken at the funeral and as such its all about the "secondary" "great crowds" class hope.. so my question is had anybody ever attended the funeral talk for someone who claimed to be in the 144,000???.
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john.prestor
Did they actually say the deceased wanted them to say that kind of stuff at the funeral, or did they just want you to make that assumption? Either way it's in horrible taste. A Baptist did that at my great grandmother's funeral and it pissed me off.
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A clue about dropping of reporting of numbers?
by sir82 inhey, did anyone notice this point from the wt study article for this past weekend (paragraph 2):.
certainly, jehovah is pleased to see that so many attend the memorial.
(luke 22:19) however, jehovah is not primarily concerned with the number of people who come.
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john.prestor
Yeah, I'm with some of the other posters here, they want to downplay numbers in case the numbers don't go their way. If they do, they'll trumpet them to the highest heaven. One year I heard the CO spoke at the hall I studied and told the audience they broke a record or something
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Beroean Pickets- please offer encouragement
by Lightgrowsbrighter infor many who have left jw.org, there is still a spiritual need and faith in the bible.
beroean pickets is one group/website where serious bible research and commentary, weekly critical reviews of wt studies, as well expose's of flawed wt opinion/doctrine- all backed by the bible- can be considered.
this vast amount of work and research is all done by just a small group of our volunteer brothers and sisters.
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john.prestor
Just a couple thoughts: whether the guy seeks followers or not, he's got followers in a sense. I'm against disfellowshipping and all that nonsense but that doesn't change the fact that people listen to him, and honestly, good for him and good for them, they find meaning in his words, he should be proud of that.
Overall though i gotta agree with dubstepped: this won't change a thing.
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Brain Teaser
by BourneIdentity ini’ve always wondered about this one.
if the bible says there will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, does that mean all mankind that have died will come back to life?
if so, what’s the incentive for jws to have an urgency to preach and save people?
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john.prestor
Remember the bible doesn't say that there's gonna be a resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous: the book of Daniel says that, and the book of Revelations says that.