Posts by Exelder

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

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friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

So this site is now controlled by self appointed police and nobody is allowed to express their viewpoint anymore.

Sounds familiar.

I will "piss off" then

Ps. And I DID stand up.....I lost contact with my entire family when I left the JW's ...I haven't even met my new grandchild. I didn't have any qualifications to fall back on or a well paid job and have had to start from scratch which is not easy for a man in his late 50's. I just know pointless it is holding placards up at a conventiopn, no mattter how well intentioned.

Josephus, this campaign is burning you up. If that is how you want to live your life, that is up to you. But I have every right as you to express my opinion. Your fight has NOT been tougher than mine just because you choose to protest.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Just fine....

You said: "It just irritates me when people think they have the right to decide for someone else how to best be an ex-JW."

Was that referring to me?

If so, then you have cherry picked my posts because that is not what I was saying (please re-read if in doubt)..

If not and it was a general comment then no offence taken.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Just Fine....I am in agreement with you.

However, Josephus and many active protesters are not healing. They are so consumed by this awful cult that they relive the hurt and anger every day (Look at the poor guys videos if you don't believe me.).

I would love to see them 'heal' and feel better. If I genuinely thought or saw evidence that protesting would heal them I would be all for it.

Each to their own.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

"Not my ex JW viewpoint, though. And not for others too it would seem."

So Freddo, you think that strong faithful witnesses would sit up and take notice of protesting apostates outside a convention?

Really?

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Seriously, do what you want. I honestly don't care.

I am not a JW any more but I do know that active protesting won't work (there have been apostates for years) and the poor guys doing it (who I think are very brave) should just move on and get on with their lives. They would be so much happier.

I am just speaking from an ex JW viewpoint. I know first hand how the majority of them will react at seeing protesters.

The ones who will listen to them would leave anyway. The Internet makes it much easier to do research now.

But if you want to protest and think that it is worthwhile, be my guest,

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

And like a JW, you don't seem to have the ability to debate.

All I am saying is that if you want to reach JW's, protesting is not the way to do it. You will make them stronger.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Just fine and LV101...I am guessing that by your response, you have never been a JW ro dedicated strong JW.

For a JW, the more protesters there are, the more real JW's would ignore it and would not use your rational thinking.

Banners and protesters make them cower and retreat into the faith even more. They have had YEARS of indoctination and the shutters come down at even a sniff of apostasy.

And LV101 ....if you look at josephus's videos (The Great Apostate), the poor guy is very unhappy and gets very low.

The JW's continue to consume and influence his life even though he has left. The protesting is not letting him get on with his life. He seems a lovely guy and I feel so sorry for him, but protesting is not the answer and help in the long run.

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If You Told A JW That His Religion Was “False Religion “ What Would Be His Response?

by minimus in

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friends

witnesses are used to saying that every other religion but their own makes up “false religion “....how would a devout witness handle being labeled as a member of a false religion??

?.

Exelder

Most JW's wouldn't even bother engaging in the conversation and the shutters would come down.

Less faithful ones would probably try to defend it by default.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Diogensister....I am neither grumpy or bitter. I don't think that you read my previous post which has no evidence of grumpisness or bitterness at all:

"I just watched some of the Great Apostate Videos in YouTube.

Josephus, you seem like a lovely guy and I wish that I had known you at my Kingdom Hall, but doing this active apostate stuff at conventions doesn't seem to be making you very happy.

I know you have been hurt by the JW's (we all have) but seriously, it is time to move on with your life and try and forget them as much as you can.

I saw the vid of you with other protesters standing outside the convention and you were exactly the sort of people that 'faithful' witnesses were warned against. No wonder they didn't look at you with your banners etc. I would have ignored you too.

The only ones that you are reaching, are the ones who will fall away anyway. The rest would not even look at you or your banners.

We are all messed up by the JW's, but trying to get back at them and protesting is not good for your sanity. You have said yourself how low you get.

The harcore witnesses have an inbuilt defense mechanism that will repel any sort of apostacy. Only the weaker ones will listen but they will leave anyway.

I reallly warmed to you in the videos. You are a lovely guy with a happy, chirpy disposition (and I love the Irish accent) but I worry that the JW's will keep eating you up and hurting you even more.

The best way that you can get your 'revenge' or do any good is to get on with your life. Be happy, successful and enjoy the liberation of being free from them.

I wish you success and genuine happiness but don't think that protesting in this way is the way to get true happiness and relief."

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Not a hater here. I actually feel sorry for you and wish you could stop hurting and get on with your life.

And Digoensister, I am a neither grumpy or bitter.

Do what you feel you have to do, but it won't make you any happier or more satisfied.

I prefer not to let the JW's hurt or influence my life any more than they have already done in the past.

By protesting and being obssessed with getting your point across the more they win. You will be consumed by them.

It is a pointless excercise and you won't win ANY faithful Witnesses, just those who would leave anyway.