Posts by Exelder

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Cart encounters this weekend.

by OneEyedJoe in

on weekend mornings i like to take my dog for a long walk at a nearby lake.

recently there's been some cultists and a propaganda cart posted up along my walking path.

until today i've ignored them.

Exelder

I actually can't believe their complacent, couldn't care a less attitude.

If they REALLY believed that armageddon was coming soon then they show utter contempt and a complete pious, "I'm alright Jack, F*** You", attitude knowing that the rest of us are all going to be killed (their beliefs not mine).

In the age of information overload and tools like the Internet, is this REALLY the way that Jehovah would want the warning message to be given?

If so, it would show hims as a murderous, evil God because most people would want to do some research first if they became interested in Jehovahs Witnesses. The results online are damning.

By their bored demanour they know in their hearts that their message is wrong. They are just counting time so it looks good on their monthly reports.

I pity them when I see them now. What a waste of a life.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

I have just watched Josephus's latest video on Youtube (The Great Apostate) and although I don't agree with the methods of protesting, I take my hat off to him because I did not realise just what else he does to help ex-witnesses.

He doesn't JUST protest but assists many ex JW's both financially with practical help at great cost to himself, not just finanancially but emotionally.

For what it is worth, I have a new found respect for him and for his work ad I owe him an apology for putting such a downer on his big weekend which took a lot of organising, preparation and personal financial cost.

Wishing him a safe journey home and am glad that he felt that his weekend went well.

The link to the video,,,, 3 mins 35 seconds in is particularly poignant

https://youtu.be/5aodeocCSBY

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

So this site is now controlled by self appointed police and nobody is allowed to express their viewpoint anymore.

Sounds familiar.

I will "piss off" then

Ps. And I DID stand up.....I lost contact with my entire family when I left the JW's ...I haven't even met my new grandchild. I didn't have any qualifications to fall back on or a well paid job and have had to start from scratch which is not easy for a man in his late 50's. I just know pointless it is holding placards up at a conventiopn, no mattter how well intentioned.

Josephus, this campaign is burning you up. If that is how you want to live your life, that is up to you. But I have every right as you to express my opinion. Your fight has NOT been tougher than mine just because you choose to protest.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Just fine....

You said: "It just irritates me when people think they have the right to decide for someone else how to best be an ex-JW."

Was that referring to me?

If so, then you have cherry picked my posts because that is not what I was saying (please re-read if in doubt)..

If not and it was a general comment then no offence taken.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Just Fine....I am in agreement with you.

However, Josephus and many active protesters are not healing. They are so consumed by this awful cult that they relive the hurt and anger every day (Look at the poor guys videos if you don't believe me.).

I would love to see them 'heal' and feel better. If I genuinely thought or saw evidence that protesting would heal them I would be all for it.

Each to their own.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

"Not my ex JW viewpoint, though. And not for others too it would seem."

So Freddo, you think that strong faithful witnesses would sit up and take notice of protesting apostates outside a convention?

Really?

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Seriously, do what you want. I honestly don't care.

I am not a JW any more but I do know that active protesting won't work (there have been apostates for years) and the poor guys doing it (who I think are very brave) should just move on and get on with their lives. They would be so much happier.

I am just speaking from an ex JW viewpoint. I know first hand how the majority of them will react at seeing protesters.

The ones who will listen to them would leave anyway. The Internet makes it much easier to do research now.

But if you want to protest and think that it is worthwhile, be my guest,

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

And like a JW, you don't seem to have the ability to debate.

All I am saying is that if you want to reach JW's, protesting is not the way to do it. You will make them stronger.

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London Protest 2018

by josephus in

jw
friends

well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

Exelder

Just fine and LV101...I am guessing that by your response, you have never been a JW ro dedicated strong JW.

For a JW, the more protesters there are, the more real JW's would ignore it and would not use your rational thinking.

Banners and protesters make them cower and retreat into the faith even more. They have had YEARS of indoctination and the shutters come down at even a sniff of apostasy.

And LV101 ....if you look at josephus's videos (The Great Apostate), the poor guy is very unhappy and gets very low.

The JW's continue to consume and influence his life even though he has left. The protesting is not letting him get on with his life. He seems a lovely guy and I feel so sorry for him, but protesting is not the answer and help in the long run.

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If You Told A JW That His Religion Was “False Religion “ What Would Be His Response?

by minimus in

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friends

witnesses are used to saying that every other religion but their own makes up “false religion “....how would a devout witness handle being labeled as a member of a false religion??

?.

Exelder

Most JW's wouldn't even bother engaging in the conversation and the shutters would come down.

Less faithful ones would probably try to defend it by default.