Exelder

Joined

• started 3 topics
• posted 115 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Exelder

• 
  36

  Here is what silly looks like

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for shits and grins, i looked at an online sunday meeting a few days ago on youtube.

  i was in disbelieve on just how silly everything looks with the watchtower reader reading from his little iphone and the watchtower conductor holding up his iphone to ask the questions.

  then the conductor asked the reader to read a bible verse and of course, he reads from his little phone.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  ....and what would they do when there is no power during The Great Tribulation lol
• 
  89

  Is Jesus Christ, Jehovah God? (Not the Father, but Equal to the Father)

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah's witnesses,is jesus christ, jehovah god?

  (not the father, but equal to the father)what if the watchtower told you about god in a false way, and yet the bible taught you about god in his true character, how would you respond?could it be true, that the watchtower have been leading you up the garden path, describing god in a way that the bible does not describe?

  please watch my latest video to help you to see how the bible describes the lord jesus christ, and also within my video, i explain from the new world translation how the bible which the jws use, also describes jesus as jehovah god.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  Does anybody EVER come off the victor in these pointless arguments?

  All I have ever witnessed (forgive the pun) is one person be more articulate or intellgent than the other and browbeats that person into giving up, but neither party have changed their mind at all.

  It is a waste of time and effort....and at the end of the day....who really cares?
• 
  36

  Here is what silly looks like

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for shits and grins, i looked at an online sunday meeting a few days ago on youtube.

  i was in disbelieve on just how silly everything looks with the watchtower reader reading from his little iphone and the watchtower conductor holding up his iphone to ask the questions.

  then the conductor asked the reader to read a bible verse and of course, he reads from his little phone.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  From the age of 4 I was able to look up ANY scripture in the bible including the minor prophets (I still remember the sciptural reminder of a Haggai Sandwich....Zephania, Haggai, Zechariah ...Zechariah came "Z"econd...geddit?)

  I doubt any little klds know their way round the bible now. They just tap into their phones and tablets.

  Lazy. Lazy. Lazy ....and little respect for the bible, the supposed word of God.
  
• 
  17

  The Trinity explained from the Whiteboard

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a lot of people are confused over the teaching of the trinity, some doubt it, some outright deny it, where some can't get their head around it.

  the bible supports it through scriptural evidence.

  this video explains from the whiteboard the difference between the god of the watchtower to the god in the bible.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  I came to this site to get AWAY from such garbage. I honestly don't care about any bible teachings.

  I am constantly surprised when people come here wanting to prove or disprove some theological teaching.
• 
  40

  First time

  by Deke in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  good evening all, this is my first time posting.. been reading and following for two years.

  my story will come soon.... but i want to say to all, thanks for all the meaningful, intellectual, honest, and insightful words!!

  it’s been an interesting 48 years of service to an organization!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  Giordano

  I LOVED that story!!!

  I wonder how many other couples there are who are just waiting for the other one to admit the truth so they can leave but are too afraid to say so.

  I am really glad that you didn't have to waste yet another year of your life.
• 
  112

  London Protest 2018

  by josephus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

  we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  Instagram is huge among JW kids (it least it was 3 years ago) because they were warned off other social media sites like Facebook.

  Instagram gave them tighter controls on who friended them and can see the information.

  I am not sure whether JW kids would be brave enough to show any apostate stuff in their feed because word would soon spread, particularly as parents and other JW congregation members would be able to see the information. It wouldn't take long before the whistle was blown.

  When I left, some were experimenting with Snapchat but that has gone mainstream too.

  Of course, I am old and out of the loop now, so I am probably wrong lol
• 
  40

  First time

  by Deke in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  good evening all, this is my first time posting.. been reading and following for two years.

  my story will come soon.... but i want to say to all, thanks for all the meaningful, intellectual, honest, and insightful words!!

  it’s been an interesting 48 years of service to an organization!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  Welcome to the forum Deke.

  Your length of service was very similar to mine.

  Personally speaking, I felt guilt and shame about leaving initially, then sorrow because I was leaving my family and the only friends that I ever knew.

  Then anger set in, thinking about my wasted life. I am in my late 50's with no qualifications and crap job and no pension. I would have loved to have had the opportunity to go to university and who knows what kind of job I would have now.

  I am now at a stage of acceptance of my situation and a great sense of liberation (especially on a Saturday morning ....no more field ministry and on Sunday, which used to be totally taken up with meeting in morning, lunch at the hall then ministry in the afterrnoon. I have got my weekends back. YAY!! The novelty never wears off ha ha )

  Despite all of that, I am determined never to be bitter. There were some good times and I had some very close friends who I loved dearly.

  I hope that you enjoy your freedom.
• 
  24

  The Children Act - Emma Thompson - advertised on ITV One - prime time.

  by freddo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as you probably know "the children act" is a film starring emma thompson as a high court judge deciding whether or not to transfuse a teen jw.

  it is due to be on general release in the uk on august 24th 2018. september 14th usa.. its shortened trailer is being advertised in the uk on the biggest independent tv channel - namely itv - at prime time.

  just seen it in advertisment breaks between 6pm and 7pm uk time.. thought you might like to know..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  Thanks Freddo.

  I have read the book. It is a good story but not authentic like the film Apostasy.

  I'll still be going to see it.
• 
  7

  Jw funerals

  by blisterfeet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently posted that i found out my father is sick.

  i have not found out any additional information from my family.

  i’m kinda on an “as provided” basis with information.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  I think that it all depends on the family.

  I get excluded from EVERYTHING. I really am treated as if I am dead.

  I know of others who really miss their disassociated or disfellowshipped family member who have more contact with their relatives than they really ought (according to JW rules) and so keep the family member informed.

  Personally, I could not bear to attend any family event where I was treated as something so disgusting to them that they treat me worse than a piece of crap on their shoe.

  I will NEVER tell them if I am dying and friends are given friends strict instructions NEVER to tell my JW family members. I would never give them the satisfaction of simply saying "thank you for telling us" then just getting back to their life as if nothing had happened.
• 
  112

  London Protest 2018

  by josephus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.

  we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Exelder

  Jehalapano, I have learnt a valuable lesson in the last 24 hours.

  I realise that we have all been locked in the same cult for many years (in my case all my life) and how we deal with the freedom once we leave is entirely up to each us (for the first time in years) and should be respected.

  I have a new found respect for people like Josephus who is using his experience for good and helping others.