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2034 - A Future History of Jehovah's Witnesses
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i don't know what i am talking about... read this post at your peril.

back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among jehovah's witnesses.

those who have read raymond franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about dan sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'.
TonusOH

Seventeen years ago, Whiskeyjack wrote:
I think it will take another decade (of the older generation of JW's dying off in waves) before the "1914 generation" shit hits the proverbial fan.
Nailed it. If this was written in 2005, then it was almost exactly ten years later that the WTS put up the video explaining the overlapping generations idea.
Whiskeyjack also said "I think a western shrinkage will start in the 2020's." Looks like it started a bit earlier than that, but again it was a really good guess.
Of course, one can understand how a sudden and drastic (and honestly... nonsensical) change in doctrine could lead to slowed or reversed growth. Even cult members have varying levels of tolerance for nonsense.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

His claim that he dated a sex worker in Thailand is another of those missteps that he is already regretting. I think he made the claim to push back against the accusations that he went to Thailand to buy sex from hookers. Once again, if he felt there was no evidence of this, he could simply deny it. Slipping in the claim that he was dating one makes him look like both a liar and a fool. It also opens up a whole new avenue of ridicule-- imagine a woman who can get men to pay for sex deciding that the guy she wanted to date was... Lloyd.
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How many partakers are here?
by bola in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i am partaking of the bread and the wine today.

who else is partaking also?.
TonusOH

I occasionally partake of bread and wine. Just not in association with any religious ceremony.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

Yeah, I am not really interested in his income totals. Good for him, if he was able to have that kind of success from such a relatively small niche. But, at the same time, it may have confirmed in his mind that his harsh and uncompromising approach was the key to success. And now, he is seeing that there are a lot of things that money cannot buy: common sense, wisdom, a sense of proportion... and common sense.
It may be that his most pressing concern is not that the money will run out, but that he'll have to dish out half of it to his wife (possibly his soon-to-be ex-wife) and kids. And to really bad lawyers who've never written an English-language cease-and-desist letter before. And maybe even a defense lawyer or two.
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Does he really have a sex problem ?
by ozziepost in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
like many, i’ve been bemused at lloyd evan’s excuses/reasons for his lusting after prostitutes.

apparently, as he claims in his disastrous video, he blames his wife for being inadequate between the sheets.. could the real answer to his ‘problem’ be closer to home?.

perhaps if he consulted a medical person or even a sex therapist he may learn his “problem” is not down to the borg at all, it may simply be caused by his weight i.e.
TonusOH

He has mentioned that he is seeing a therapist. I am thinking that the therapist isn't coddling him or telling him what he wants to hear, and has now been added to the litigation and accused of being part of the bullying campaign that threatens to derail his activism, which is simply too important to be stopped!
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Ok...so then here is my 'proper' intro ;)
by Rubyvixen in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i actually have been reading these forums for about two years now and just decided to finally register.

where does one go to make a proper intro post?

edit: alrighty then, i guess i will do my little intro here.
TonusOH

Hi Bernadette and joao. I joined the forum recently, but I faded quietly from the organization more than ten years ago. Hope things get easier for you as you work through the process of becoming free. :)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

I think he has good reason to be afraid of Kim.
Also, those exchanges are funny. "Please don't call them street workers. I didn't pay them for street."
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

I think it’s time for Lloyd to do a video telling his side of the story.
LOL
I'm not the only one thinking "what could go wrong? DO IT!" Right?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

I have to admit, I'm impressed at Evans' ability to blow up everything he touches.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

Lloyd responds that he did do something wrong, but only that it was against his wife.
It shows what kind of person he is, that he seems to think that this should be sufficient to convince his patrons to keep supporting him. "Sure, I did something immoral, reckless, cruel, and thoughtless... but I did it to someone else." And the tired old canard of expecting him to be "perfect." This, from someone who makes his living making moral and ethical judgments on an entire organization, and who is trying to claim the moral high ground against his critics. He really is his own worst enemy.