Posts by TonusOH

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Christmas, yes or no ?

by jhine in

i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .

christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.

however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.

TonusOH

DesirousOfChange: I think too many families go way overboard on it and go into debt and it becomes a source of financial (and maybe relationship) trouble.

That is how I always saw it when I was a JW. And I know some people who dreaded Christmas because of that. But the friends I exchange gifts with usually find some small knickknack or other small but cool/funny item that makes the exchange relaxed and fun. Thanks to them, I got to experience it as an enjoyable get-together. I look forward to this time of year for more than just the handful of days off.

And again, I'm struck by how I never got to enjoy Christmas until I wasn't a "Christian" anymore. When I was a JW, I would rationalize why the people celebrating Christmas weren't as happy or excited as they seemed, why they were actually bitter and miserable. I think I was looking into a mirror and didn't realize it. I feel bad for people who are still like that, and am glad I got away from it.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

As for Evans's technical know-how... think back to his livestream, and how flustered he was by something as simple as keeping his camera and microphone working properly, and how he seemed to think that it was Producer Bob sabotaging him. It would not surprise me if he is barely conversant with web hosting and video editing.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I feel bad for people like Threadwarrior. From his first replies it seems as if personal integrity matters to him, which means that honesty and forthrightness are also important to him. He trusted Evans and took him at his word, and now he must feel betrayed. Think of all the times Evans referred to the accusations as nothing but unsubstantiated slander, when he had confirmed them many months before. Think of all the times he has called people cowards for not being forthright, when he was deceiving the people who trusted him.

They're being victimized too, and I bet Evans's response will be to become angry with them for seeking answers ~~outside of the organiz~~, I mean, for seeking answers elsewhere.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

KatKat: Does anybody know why the site is suspended?

That usually happens if the domain/site owner does not keep up with hosting payments.

DerekMoors: the jwwatch.org site shows the account suspended message.

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Christmas, yes or no ?

by jhine in

i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .

christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.

however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.

TonusOH

It's ironic that it wasn't until after I stopped being religious that I felt comfortable saying "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" to people. Buying Christmas cards. Buying gifts. This year will be the one where I am most invested in it: I actually have plans for the gifts I will buy for several friends, instead of buying one or two things at the last moment on instinct.

I might even decorate!

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Request----2022 Circuit Overseer Guidelines in PDF!

by Atlantis in

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friends

2022 circuit overseer guidelines pdf.. .

https://www.filemail.com/d/kphgslnjfxwgjxk .

atlantis!.

TonusOH

Thank you, Atlantis. Are these and future documents going to be added to the site your friend is hosting?

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Living your life according to the bible

by TTWSYF in

i have heard it said [numerous times] that jws live their life according to the bible.. i have also heard [numerous times] that jws have restored the correct christian practice following the great apostasy [?which is a different topic].

my question is 'is there any proof anywhere in history where jewish or christian people lived their life according to the scriptures?".

ttwsyf.

TonusOH

It can be argued that there were people who lived their lives according to the Divine will, before they had Scriptures to depend on. Moses, Enoch, Job, etc. Granted, they purportedly had something a bit more direct than a written guide.

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List of Things We Were NOT Allowed To Do as JW's

by Sea Breeze in

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here's my list of jw no-no's as i recall: .

1. no giving or accepting valentine candy for students.

2. no going to home coming football games.

TonusOH

Sea Breeze: 45. Not allowed to participate in most extracirricular activities at school

Or work, either, as I learned when I played a season with a softball team in a corporate league. I got a 'friendly' talking-to about how I was in good shape to become an MS and it just wouldn't look good if I was spending leisure time with worldly people. I dutifully informed my co-workers that I would no longer be on the team, became an MS, and coincidentally began to fade.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

It does show that the efforts of people to expose him are acting as an irritant, at the very least. I do hope he does not stop referring to the lawsuits. I want him to keep reminding everyone about them, so when they end up going nowhere he won't be able to pretend that they never happened.

And LOL at him thinking that "there were only 17 of us there" was an effective comeback to someone explaining that anyone could show up. Maybe you can respond by wondering out loud if the reason only 17 people were there was because they found out Lloyd was going to show up.

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Why isn't this forum growing like reddit exjw??

by nowwhat? in

admittedly it 90% crap over there but still they are up to 80k in subscribers.

over here it's the same half dozen or so that posts something, including myself.

why is that?.

TonusOH

I also found this site by accident, and there was a long topic about people who had served in Bethel, where they pulled back the curtain on what it was really like. I haven't found it again but it was fascinating to read at the time. I had already been out for some years but in some ways the image of Bethel as a small Christian utopia was still in the back of my mind. So, on the one hand, I was not surprised at what I was reading. But on the other hand, it really brought down the walls that protected my view of the HQ.