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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

KIMSILVIO: I don’t know whether Lloyd doesn’t understand or chooses not to see.
I think it's a bit of both. It is clear that he does not think that his use of sex workers disqualifies him from being involved in efforts to confront organizations that have tried to suppress evidence of CSA in their ranks. I think he is also trying to make prostitution seem like a victimless crime, at least where his own activity is involved.
Neither of those views makes me think that he is qualified to take part in efforts to get justice for those who have been victims of sexual abuse. But he may not care, at least until such time as he is forced to confront his actions and his attitudes.
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How do Jehovah's Witnesses differ from first century Christians?
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
let me start with a couple of distinctions.. first century christians:.

1. baptized military personnel.. 2. baptized men with political authority.

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TonusOH

I think the biggest difference would be a reliance on a personal relationship with God versus getting everything filtered through a governing body of men who acted as gatekeepers to salvation.
Also, they probably didn't believe in 'Bible chronology.'
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

Hmmm... is he sure he wants to give up control of that URL?
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Favorite Xmas movie?
by peacefulpete in
1. jw
2. friends
elf...simply a great movie imo.

funny, heartwarming and well acted..
TonusOH

Die Hard, of course!
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How many preaching hours are real
by Hellothere in
1. jw
2. experiences
how much of the preaching hours in yearly report you think are real?

they always have high numbers preaching hours.

probably increase every decade.
TonusOH

It's been 25 years or so, but I can recall that many of us weren't the most enthusiastic about going door-to-door. If you left with the group at 10am and got back home at 12pm, you reported two hours. How much of that was spent knocking on doors and trying to talk to people? not as much as you might think. We would frequently walk to the building or block we were assigned to, and that itself could take 5 minutes or 20. And we weren't moving at a brisk pace, I can tell you!
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Christmas, yes or no ?
by jhine in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .

christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.

however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
TonusOH

DesirousOfChange: I think too many families go way overboard on it and go into debt and it becomes a source of financial (and maybe relationship) trouble.
That is how I always saw it when I was a JW. And I know some people who dreaded Christmas because of that. But the friends I exchange gifts with usually find some small knickknack or other small but cool/funny item that makes the exchange relaxed and fun. Thanks to them, I got to experience it as an enjoyable get-together. I look forward to this time of year for more than just the handful of days off.
And again, I'm struck by how I never got to enjoy Christmas until I wasn't a "Christian" anymore. When I was a JW, I would rationalize why the people celebrating Christmas weren't as happy or excited as they seemed, why they were actually bitter and miserable. I think I was looking into a mirror and didn't realize it. I feel bad for people who are still like that, and am glad I got away from it.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

As for Evans's technical know-how... think back to his livestream, and how flustered he was by something as simple as keeping his camera and microphone working properly, and how he seemed to think that it was Producer Bob sabotaging him. It would not surprise me if he is barely conversant with web hosting and video editing.
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

I feel bad for people like Threadwarrior. From his first replies it seems as if personal integrity matters to him, which means that honesty and forthrightness are also important to him. He trusted Evans and took him at his word, and now he must feel betrayed. Think of all the times Evans referred to the accusations as nothing but unsubstantiated slander, when he had confirmed them many months before. Think of all the times he has called people cowards for not being forthright, when he was deceiving the people who trusted him.
They're being victimized too, and I bet Evans's response will be to become angry with them for seeking answers ~~outside of the organiz~~, I mean, for seeking answers elsewhere.
11530
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

KatKat: Does anybody know why the site is suspended?
That usually happens if the domain/site owner does not keep up with hosting payments.
DerekMoors: the jwwatch.org site shows the account suspended message.
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Christmas, yes or no ?
by jhine in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .

christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.

however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
TonusOH

It's ironic that it wasn't until after I stopped being religious that I felt comfortable saying "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" to people. Buying Christmas cards. Buying gifts. This year will be the one where I am most invested in it: I actually have plans for the gifts I will buy for several friends, instead of buying one or two things at the last moment on instinct.
I might even decorate!