Posts by TonusOH

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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

TonusOH

It might depend on where he is from, in some places it seems as if signatures are more like doodles. Some years ago I had a co-worker from India, and he said that in order to combat fraud, their signatures had to be very messy and complex. I'm not sure how making the signature even harder to understand made it more secure, though.

And I did know one or two co-workers who were European and also had very simple signatures which were mostly just a couple of squiggled lines. Again, how this helps with identification or verification is lost on me, but that's how they did it.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I'm wondering how much work will be required to get it back online and running as before. It's been many years since I had a website and I don't know how site hosts work these days. Would he be able to reach out to the webhost and get the site restored from a backup? That would be the quickest and easiest path, but I have no idea how cooperative a site host would be with a deadbeat account that was relatively small.

Otherwise, there is a whole list of questions I have. Does he have the domain name, or is it unsecured or belongs to someone else? Does he have backups of the site, in the event that he needs to restore it? Does he know, or have someone who knows, how to do that and get all of the links and scripts working? (Or is that even necessary? Maybe it's a WordPress site or something?)

There is a lot to wonder about even before we get to the question of whether he has the drive or desire to update the site regularly anymore. Writing short articles should not be an issue for him, he seems to spend all day typing up missives on social media. Short commentary on JW 'news of the day' should be something he can get back to doing with ease, so long as his heart is still in it. If he sees it as beneath him, as a step back, he might struggle to do it. And let's be honest, he's not the sharpest writer on his best day. If the effort isn't there, the site will die quickly.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

I'm not sure that it was about the right person at the right time. It might even be the opposite, the wrong person at the wrong time. He joined a small community that was going about its business in a loose and generally cooperative manner, and steamrolled his way through it. People were willing to help him because they didn't realize that he was out for himself only, and by the time some of them realized what a problem he was, he had just enough support to get away with pushing them aside. Many simply walked away when they realized the effort was more than it was worth to fight back, especially when the response from many was to pile on. Anyone who wanted to do their thing peacefully fell in line, anyone who tried to fight back either walked away or was marginalized.

The time is always ripe for an amoral opportunist to overwhelm a small community and poison it. There might be a chance to run him out of this one, but people will need to make sure not to underestimate him.

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Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

TonusOH

The WTS will paint this as persecution, because they thrive on that narrative. The rank and file are more easily kept in line with the "us against them" approach that makes them think that this is an attack from Satan. And since widespread suppression of their work is seen as one of the final signs of the end, they get pretty excited when they feel they are being attacked.

The GB will be careful how they present it, because they don't want anything that might sow doubt among the followers, such as finding out that this is mostly about money and that it is an attempt to protect children and young adults from the devastating effects of shunning. Although, let's be honest, many JWs would not flinch at learning about either.

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

by Godlyman in

if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.

TonusOH

It's too bad that they didn't agree to accept the 586BC date. Imagine- they first use the 607BC date and come up with 1914 and BAM! World War 1! Then they recognize the error and go with 586BC and BAM! the early 1930s and the rise of Hitler! They could then say that God was cleverly showing them when the events leading to the crowning of Jesus in 1935 began.

They would not have had to come up with that overlapping generations crap for at least another few years from now. Missed opportunity!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

He will blame Kim and the other six, and if his daughters see through his bullshit he will gaslight them and use that as the pretext to avoid helping them. Then again, at this rate he may not be able to support them on his salary as a dishwasher/boytoy.

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Did it ever become unbearable to attend another Kingdom Hall meeting?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

it's becoming unbearable for me to attend another meeting.

i dread coming to the weekly sunday public talk and watchtower study.

the talks are ''repeats'' of a ''repeat.

TonusOH

I went through a very long period where it was difficult to motivate myself to go. I wanted to be a good JW and keep serving, but it was a drag. I did notice that, once I got to the meeting or to field service, it wasn't so bad. But especially on work nights it just got to where I missed more meetings than I attended, and it went down from there. Eventually I only went to the memorial, where I was warmly greeted and got all kinds of encouragement. But after three or four years of that I stopped altogether.

It was so hard to keep doing it even when I thought I wanted to do it. If I'd been convinced that it wasn't the truth at that time, I can't imagine I would have been able to do it, not even a single time. Somewhere deep in the recesses of my brain, I had decided that I did not want to have anything to do with it, I guess. By the time I finally accepted it, it came as a huge relief, even though it must have been 7 or 8 years since I had gone to any meeting at all.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

"At 379, I will only travel to the local karaoke bar, as I will lack the resources to travel around the world. I will limit my meet-up events to those involving inexpensive 'conversations' with sex workers who are verifiably older than 20. I will also have a short conversation with TED, the bartender at the karaoke bar. I will refer to this as my TED talk."

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

TonusOH

And I thought it was significant to see it drop to 424, figuring that from now on the changes would be small and gradual. He was at 440 or 443 just a few days ago. That is a very big drop. I think the constant pressure is having an effect, especially on those who are supporting him but were refusing to check behind the curtain. It doesn't really take much more than a glimpse to learn (A)the things he admitted to doing and (B)that he has been misleading his remaining supporters about it.

It's tough to support someone with his issues and his way of dealing with them (lie, misdirect, bully people, use his family as props, etc). There are 401 people who either have not yet looked into what is going on, or who will stick with him to the bitter end. My guess is that there are a lot more of the former.

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A Further Land Grab.

by Lost in the fog in

https://eu.recordonline.com/story/news/local/2022/11/29/jehovahs-witnesses-ramapo-campus-will-expand-growing-hudson-valley-empire/69674158007/.

TonusOH

Being tax exempt certainly saves them huge amounts of money, as does all of the dirt-cheap or free labor they can command. But they are spending a lot on all of this real estate and the buildings and other improvements, and those will still require steady income in order to remain viable.

They might need to start a YouTube channel in order to generate some income. Imagine the views they would get from "Stephen Lett Reaction" videos. Maybe Tony Morris can do booze reviews? And David Splane can 'splain how overlapping generations works. They could even do "Rebuttal Rebuttal Sushi" videos breaking down Lloyd Evans's breakdowns.