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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Debra: and of course Thailand every 3 or 4 months for the past five years,

  I don't understand why you keep saying this. Neither Kim nor Evans ever claimed that he made repeat trips to Thailand; he went there once. He did not even claim to go there for sex (whether one believes this is a completely separate issue). He admitted to visiting sex workers, which presumably happened in Croatia.

  He lives for this kind of confusion and mistaken information, which he can claim is proof that everyone is lying about him. Unless you can demonstrate otherwise, please stop repeating this claim.
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  Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?

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  i don`t think so .

  hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.

  with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..

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  I think that, as long as there are questions we do not have answers for, people will fill that gap with explanations of their own. Non-religious people are becoming a larger percentage of the population in some countries, and I expect this to continue for awhile, but I also think it will reverse at some point. There are a lot of things we don't know and have not figured out, and as long as those gaps exist, our need to be certain will guide us towards religious belief.

  Science has, in my mind, made a certain type of god seem illogical. But that type --the all powerful interventionist who wishes the best for us-- is the one that we'd all prefer to be real, so it persists (even if the examples available don't quite fit the description, if you dig a bit deeper). The more likely type is one that probably doesn't care that we exist, aside from our use as a test case for future universes. That isn't very comforting.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  One thing to take away from that Reddit post: Lloyd is starting to lose people for, basically, being Lloyd. It has not been surprising that he lost so much support, since most of his supporters were religious people who would be turned off by his actions. Which means that the ones who remain are either unaware of what he has done or did not feel it was sufficient reason to drop support. But, as he has shown so often, Evans is not a pleasant person and not afraid to show his unpleasant side, even to people who are rooting for him.

  So it is likely that he will continue to lose patrons, because some will learn about him and be doubly resentful (for what he did and for hiding it from them) and others will find another reason to stop supporting him (because he's a massive douchebag).
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  JeffT: What did he need an initial print of 100 copies for?

  I was thinking the same. If he wanted to offer some for sale through the crowdfunding campaign, I guess I can understand that. But he spoke of "what I need." Not a tier where you get a limited-edition first-printing, just a request to cover the print costs. He should be embarrassed that he tried to justify asking for gas money and for people to cover the cut that Indiegogo and PayPal would take.

  Especially when -as you noted- Amazon already provides everything he would need to get the book printed and sold, at a minimal upfront cost to him. But if he had chosen that option, he probably would have started a crowdfunding campaign to ask people to donate to cover his internet connection costs.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I agree with the assumption that Evans thought he was untouchable. But it makes it more remarkable to see that moment in his video (which is replayed in Kim's latest), where he hesitates when addressing her claim that he was visiting sex workers for "many years."

  Evans: "Many years? I think... I'm gonna say... [lengthy pause] three or four years."

  I think he really wanted to either deny it or minimize it into nothing, but he probably realized that his words had been sent via a chat app and, therefore, still existed on Kim's phone/computer. So he came up with 'three or four years' as one pick out of a bunch of bad options.

  It does show how bad the truth must be, that admitting he paid for sex "every few months for three or four years" was the least damaging look for him. And yet, he didn't hesitate to wrap himself in righteous indignation over Kim's Reddit post. In other words, cheating on his wife with prostitutes for years is not nearly as bad as telling everyone about it. The man's perspective is just a bit warped...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Heh... the same person who constantly bitches about others telling lies about him does not hesitate to claim that Kim is being "criminally prosecuted."

  But also... "criminally prosecuted"? So, the person prosecuting her is doing so in a criminal manner? I guess his mastery of the English language is about as reliable as his mastery over his penis.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  When he says that they 'flip[ped] to being judgmental and self-righteous,' he is simply saying that he's upset that they stopped supporting him and refused to agree that everyone lacks self-discipline. Remember, he mocked "Saintly" Brandon for expecting better of him. Anyone who thinks he should've been a better husband and father is judgmental and self-righteous. Anyone who thinks he shouldn't have been a bully and an asshole is judgmental and self-righteous. If you're not with him, you're judgmental and self-righteous.

  As for doing things differently, it's like Kim said: the thing he would have done differently is to try harder to keep his supporters from learning that he was cheating on his wife with prostitutes and is generally a shitty person. It must rankle him that it's become so difficult to bully people and shut them down.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  NonCoinCollector: Why is Lloyd Evans crying about an 8-month-old video?

  It looks to me as if he took a moment to gloat, and is upset that people are saying it looks bad. Evans wants people to look up to him, to recognize that he's a good person doing important work and leaving a positive legacy. Even now, the fact that people are pointing out that he comes across as a jerk unsettles him so much that he can't help but fire off angry replies. His anger is not from altworldly's video about him! Evans is angry because people won't take his side and pat him on the shoulder. His need for validation is so strong that he won't suppress it, even when it makes him look bad.
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  LMsA: And the cherry on top is that he says he’s “seething”.

  Maybe he can rub one out, to relax. It's the perfect time, too: there is no shortage of Christmas trees within easy reach.
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  slimboyfat: I see LE is also still insisting that people must guess what on earth he is talking about when he claims others have “lied” about him.

  Yeah, I noticed that as well. He uses it as a way to accuse others without actually having to back up his claims.

  Evans: "This person lied about me!"

  Everyone else: "Oh? Where is the lie?"

  Evans: "It's not my obligation to tell you!"

  And he wonders why his reputation is in the toilet.