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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  They are both pretty fucked up, if that letter is real.

  It would confirm that he's a sociopath, incapable of empathy. And that she is pretty well broken, first by the JW religion, then by her husband. It's tragic.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Thisisme: Now we have a thread that is currently standing at over 900 pages, and will soon reach the 1,000 pages landmark.

  Here's an idea for that Lloyd-info webpage: grab a number of relevant posts from this topic to create a much more compact and concise page of info. Like a summary to get people caught up. Even though the early pages here are very useful, no one's going to slog through thousands of comments and they might miss some interesting commentary and discussion.
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  How to be Thrown under the JW Bus

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i think we produced this by group think and bears reiterating.. if you don’t want to be thrown under the bus in jw land, you best not.

  1. verbalize disagreement with any official teaching of the society.. 2. celebrate your child’s birthdays.

  3. celebrate christ’s birthday on december 25th or any other date.. 4. socialize with others who have already been thrown under the bus.. 5. take up smoking.

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  14. Get a tattoo

  15. (Conditional) grow a beard

  16. (Conditional) grow your hair long

  17. (Conditional) wear earrings.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  He forgot to add the segment where he tries to explain how paying for sex at least a dozen times a year for at least three years doesn't fit the definition of "regular."

  And the follow-up segment, on how people lie to minimize their bad behavior. :o
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  LMsA: There were several commenters who were puzzled about what Lloyd meant by “defamation”, meaning they hadn’t a clue as to what he’s been up to.

  Whenever someone posts here, asking why this thread is still going-- this is why. There is a reason he is being so coy about the specifics of the 'defamation campaign' he keeps mentioning. There are many who follow and support him without knowing what he did and what it says about who he is as a person. He will need to keep begging and cajoling and pressuring people into supporting him. But they will only need to learn the truth about him once, to be convinced that he doesn't deserve their support.

  Also, does anyone think that he won't go right back to buying sex on the regular if he feels the attention has dissipated? And if his income goes back to pre-implosion levels? Is that what his supporters want to fund again? Would they be okay if he was using any of their current funds for this activity? Remember, he can't control his penis, and his wife isn't enough to keep him satisfied. His words.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  The first reply to the reddit post ripped him a new one. Not much enthusiasm (or patience, perhaps) for him anymore. Or, as one of the responses says "I've given him money before, but I don't feel like he's owed a living by the exJW community - even minus all the controversy in his personal life. He's one of a number of exJW content creators - most of whom probably have actual jobs outside making videos. No one is forcing him to do it."
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Poor teeball. His shitbag employer might have to let him go... :(
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  AI Generated Art - Impact on Artists

  by Simon in

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  unless you've been hibernating under a rock for the last couple of years, you're probably aware that ai is the new hotness.. chatgpt gets a lot of attention but equally amazing is how capable ai is at generating art.

  if you'd been ask to name anything that would be the last holdout for humans, creative arts such as writing, painting, and music would probably be some of the things at the top of the list.. yet those seem to be the things that ai can do best.. it's fascinating to use the tools, but one thing you realize is that they are just combining patterns and shapes, there isn't yet any real "intelligence", artificial or otherwise.. as an example, you can ask it to create a painting in the style or a particular artist, with a whole raft of things you want to include.

  it will do a great job on first glance, but can often give people more arms or fingers than is normal, and lamp-posts can grow to different heights, like trees.

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  enoughisenough: Do you feel like it is your artwork?

  That's a good question. I think that the level of effort or involvement dictates that for me. I'll use a different application as an example: DAZ3D, which lets you use 3D models and build scenes, which you can then render or animate.

  The application comes with some pre-built models, textures, and scenes. You can easily create a rendered 3D image by clicking a few buttons. You can even make it unique by moving the camera slightly, or changing the properties of the light, and so on. In other words, you can do very little work and get a fully-rendered image, or even a short animation. Is this your work? I'm on the fence about it. On the one hand, someone else created all of the parts and did 99% of the necessary work. On the other hand, the specific one you just built would not exist without that button press. And if pressing a button doesn't make the art yours, what of photography?

  Now, there are people who will update the 3D items or build their own, and who will carefully set up the lights and the cameras and then export the finished scene to Photoshop. Just as some photographers go far beyond just point-and-shoot. I think those people put a clear stamp on the work, to the extent that it becomes a familiar style. Maybe that is when the work is really theirs.

  I'm not sure where that line is. But I grew up drawing (and, very rarely, painting) and so I am used to doing the physical work of creating art from thought to final form. These days, I use digital tools extensively. Is the final product still mine? I think so. But I know some artists who would hesitate to say that what I produce now is my work. I think we're at the start of a long debate that will probably grow contentious in various communities.
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  AI Generated Art - Impact on Artists

  by Simon in

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  unless you've been hibernating under a rock for the last couple of years, you're probably aware that ai is the new hotness.. chatgpt gets a lot of attention but equally amazing is how capable ai is at generating art.

  if you'd been ask to name anything that would be the last holdout for humans, creative arts such as writing, painting, and music would probably be some of the things at the top of the list.. yet those seem to be the things that ai can do best.. it's fascinating to use the tools, but one thing you realize is that they are just combining patterns and shapes, there isn't yet any real "intelligence", artificial or otherwise.. as an example, you can ask it to create a painting in the style or a particular artist, with a whole raft of things you want to include.

  it will do a great job on first glance, but can often give people more arms or fingers than is normal, and lamp-posts can grow to different heights, like trees.

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  I agree about hands. I think AI will eventually be fine-tuned enough to capture even something as complex as human hands and similar structures. I think it's less about the amount of data fed to it, and more about smarter algorithms.
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  WARNING! If you DELIBERATELY avoid the JW memorial.....

  by BoogerMan in

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  .......you will experience a fate worse than death!

  you have been warned - don't come crying to me if you don't go.

  you've got one month to change your mind.

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  I try not to look back at what may have been lost in the years I spent as a JW. I'm happy enough to have gotten out and gained my freedom and a fuller control of my life than I ever had. I can't change the past, I can only live in the present and plan for the future. So I'm happier by doing the latter two and minimizing the impact of those lost years.

  Or, to quote from No Country For Old Men: “All the time you spend tryin to get back what's been took from you there's more goin out the door. After a while you just try and get a tourniquet on it.”