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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  He says he has page after page explaining the defamation from each of the people he is suing. All he needs to do is release that.
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  Elder Arrested For Decades Long Abuse

  by Sea Breeze in

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  not sure if this has already been posted:.

  https://kdvr.com/news/affidavit-religious-elder-abused-raped-children-for-decades/ .

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  Fisherman: Believe what you like but you are defeated both legally and logically without evidence to substantiate.

  This doesn't even make sense. I never made a legal argument. And logically, my reasoning is sound. I guess I won't get an explanation for your mischaracterization of my comment, either.
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  Elder Arrested For Decades Long Abuse

  by Sea Breeze in

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  not sure if this has already been posted:.

  https://kdvr.com/news/affidavit-religious-elder-abused-raped-children-for-decades/ .

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  Fisherman: Maybe you are right but maybe you are wrong.

  Thanks, Captain Obvious.
  

  Fisherman: Or false either You just don’t know in this case.
  

  Which is why I specifically used the word "believe" and not "know."
  

  Second, you said that, according to me "everybody is guilty simply because they are accused." I neither said that, nor did I imply it. Your characterization of me is incorrect, and I don't see a basis for it in anything I said.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Well, at least he is not charging them a fee to submit art...
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  Top AI inventor Geoffrey Hinton reluctantly concluded that AI will probably humanity fairly soon

  by slimboyfat in

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  geoffrey hinton, major inventor of artificial intelligence: .

  “if you take the existential risk seriously, as i now do—i used to think it was way off, but now i think it’s serious, and fairly close—it might be quite sensible to just stop developing these things any further, but i think it’s completely naïve to think that would happen.

  there’s no way to make that happen.

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  It depends on what we're referring to. There is no one all-encompassing AI, and that would be very difficult to implement even if we wanted to. But AI systems can break things, not out of a desire to do harm, but because they are not configured correctly and people come to expect them to be perfect. We're human, we learn as we go. Sometimes we have to learn the same lessons over and over.

  But, yes- most of the time, the quick and easy solution is to turn it off. Very few AI systems will be able to prevent that, unless we program them to.
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  Elder Arrested For Decades Long Abuse

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  not sure if this has already been posted:.

  https://kdvr.com/news/affidavit-religious-elder-abused-raped-children-for-decades/ .

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  Fisherman: Are you saying this guy is guilty even if charges were dropped and no trial to convict him?

  I'm saying that I believe his accusers. Maybe this large group of disparate people with many accusations of misconduct and sexual assault over many years are making it all up. I don't think they are.

  Fisherman: According to you everybody is s guilty simply because they are accused.

  I didn't say that every accusation against any person is true. Where did you get that idea?
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  Elder Arrested For Decades Long Abuse

  by Sea Breeze in

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  not sure if this has already been posted:.

  https://kdvr.com/news/affidavit-religious-elder-abused-raped-children-for-decades/ .

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  They mention an "arrest affidavit." I didn't know what that was, it apparently is a report that the arresting officer files. Based on the article, it looks like a number of people went to the police to file charges, and the affidavit lists the accusations in order to present a cause for the arrest. I fear this will not end well for the victims.

  My guess is that they'll look for anything they can charge him with, but he probably will not be charged with most of the crimes and may be acquitted of any that he is charged with. These are very tough cases to prosecute- there is probably little or no physical evidence, and witness testimony in such cases (that occurred many years prior) can be very inconsistent and easy to attack in cross-examination.

  It is a reminder of how damaging the WTS's policies and actions have been over the decades. You have to wonder how many men like this are out there, who will essentially get away with serial rape for many years, aided by misguided policies and people unprepared to deal with the issue and unwilling to seek help.
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  DISSOCIATION - Based on Covid 19

  by gavindlt in

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  dear friends,.

  i think you all know me as a person who has always strived, despite my imperfections to only ever wanting to be and remain in the “truth”.

  it is in fact what i so desperately want for my son ashton and my baby girl honey bee, to be lovers of truth and grow up to be a loyal servants of jehovah god and his son, jesus christ.

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  Keep in mind that the WTS prefers to have as much control as they can over the rank and file. When they talk about having the freedom to choose anything, it is usually because it's a thorny issue and they want to be sure they have an excuse they can fall back on. That's when they say that a particular issue is up to "each individuals conscience, and between them and Jehovah." That's when you know it's an issue they would rather not commit to because it might be an inconvenience for them.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  TonusOH

  That would be hysterical, if someone bought the .com domain and redirected it to lloydevans.info.
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  Is 1914 still a major belief in JW land ? Or has it been abandoned ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i just wonder about this topic as it is now 109 years since that date and what was expected to take place has never happened ..

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  They can hang on to 1914 for a while longer by dropping the "generations" explanations. They almost did so in 1995. Why did they bring it back? I can only assume that they want to use it as a way to keep the expectations up, to maintain the idea that time has almost run out. That is what hinders the WTS- they need to keep people in expectation of an event that will happen very soon.

  But at some point, enough time will pass that the date becomes worthless or even detrimental. And at that point, expect "new light" and "adjustments in thinking." But they will probably have to find something else to keep the pressure up, otherwise they will lose more and more people.