Posts by TonusOH

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Is Disfellowshipping properly legislated?
by Rattigan350 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
in the insight book under expelling, it refers to 1 cor 5 and titus 3 and 2 thess 3 as the basis for disfellowshipping.they've often said that the governing body was stated in acts 15 of the apostles and older men.

however, why was there no decree or letter issued by the governing body or apostles and older men and sent out to the congregations, detailing the principles of disfellowshipping?

it is all paul.
TonusOH

If the Bible really is the word of God, then it's just a matter of interpretation and not authority-- Paul would be the author of a divinely-inspired work, and his words would be canon. The only question would be if the JWs had the correct interpretation and application of his words. Many religions have rules for expelling members who cross certain lines. I think it's more a question of whether the JW shunning practice is defensible from a Biblical standpoint.
Edit: Journeyman beat me to the point!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

He might have been making a joke. Hard to say, since it would actually be a funny joke.
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Still no U turn on vax mandates for all schools
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
you still have to be fully vaccinated to attend any theocratic schools.

elders and ministerial servants have their kingdom ministry school every year, the cobe of every congregation has to check that everyone is fully vaccinated.

after the school everyone will ask any bothers who were not there why not?
TonusOH

ExB: what do you mean all the other stuff worth dealing with?
For many JWs, the meeting schedule can be onerous, and the field ministry as well. The level of control from the organization can become an issue from many possible angles (work, physical appearance, social circle, choice of entertainment, etc). Or --a matter more relevant to you-- the pressure being put on the members to get vaccinated and boosted against COVID.
I mean, you're aware that they would drag you into a judicial committee for reading and posting on this site, yes? Or even for expressing the doubts that you do? (Doubts that any of us would find reasonable, but not the WTS.) They ask for considerable control of your thoughts and actions and they expect you to give up a lot of personal freedom. None of the benefits sound like something you could not get elsewhere, without all of the restrictions and rules.
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Sonthetic human embryo—Imagine that!
by Fisherman in
1. social
2. current
i read a news article that scientists have made from stem cells a human embryo.

poor soul..
TonusOH

The article gives me the impression that they're not even thinking of using these to "grow" a human. They're stem cells that apparently are treated/modified so that they can be used for research and testing. At present, laws forbid them from 'growing' the cells beyond a 14-day limit.
It sounds more like people are wandering into sci-fi territory. Now that AI has become such a concern, I think we will see more and more articles and reports about scientific fields where it seems science has crossed some boundary that might threaten human survival, etc.
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Still no U turn on vax mandates for all schools
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
you still have to be fully vaccinated to attend any theocratic schools.

elders and ministerial servants have their kingdom ministry school every year, the cobe of every congregation has to check that everyone is fully vaccinated.

after the school everyone will ask any bothers who were not there why not?
TonusOH

What are the benefits that you get from staying in, that would make all of the other stuff worth dealing with?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

KIMSILVIO: Interestingly, he actually films them as sushi’s and tibor puts them together into the long as fuck videos
Oof, that seems like a lot more work. I blame you, Kim.
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Regional Convention Attendance
by XBEHERE in
1. jw
2. friends
elder friend of mine texted me asking what my rc attendance was 2 weeks ago (family and i streamed it since wife is not well).

he told me that his rc in the jersey city assembly hall last weekend was low.

co told them that around 2600 were the total from 16+ congs that were assigned.
TonusOH

slimboyfat: Attendants carried signs back and forward saying “session in progress” or something like that, as if people didn’t know.
Goodness, I remember that. They would occasionally gripe from the podium about it as well. Considering that it was anywhere from 2-to-5 days of sitting for 5-7 hours (not counting bus/car trips!), it could be expected that people would want to get up and stretch for more than just the lunch hour each day. Especially for the district conventions in the summer, when there might not be enough shade and the sun just baked you for hours on end.
Not to mention- it was just talks, that were being amplified by speaker systems. You could hear it just fine even a block away from the stadium sometimes!
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UK Kingdom Halls for sale
by darkspilver in
1. jw
2. friends
" and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

sell !

sell !
TonusOH

£25 million in "expenditures." More than half of it was sent back to HQ.
Rolling up the KHs has been very good from a short-term financial perspective.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

I wonder how long it will take him to remove the comment now.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
TonusOH

He rambles. There's no structure to it. He's a pretty awful songwriter.