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  Were JW Celebrities Ever An Asset To The Organisation?

  by NotFormer in

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  just wondering if the rich celebrities that occasionally were aligned with the wt gave enough to the 'tower to be a worthwhile presence within the organisation?.

  my gut instinct is: "no".

  i imagine that the jackson family gave a fair bit, but it was obviously never enough to buy michael the right to be held as being in good standing.

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  Elena: What was the trigger warning?

  From https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/michael-jackson-thriller-video-97948/

  "Due to my strong personal convictions, I wish to stress that this film in no way endorses a belief in the occult”
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

  by DerekMoors in

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  happy new year!

  time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

  he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

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  The one thing he has not slacked on is keeping his YT comments cleaned up. The comments in the Aftermath video are 100% supportive, so he has made sure to continue to delete anything negative. I don't know if he's doing this for all of his videos or just certain ones. But that has to be a massive waste of time and energy, especially if he needs to replace the labor that used to go towards making videos. People could post comments on a few of his videos almost at random every few days, and keep him playing whack-a-mole forever.

  The problem is, the video itself refers to the "defamation/hate campaign" and even his supporters struggle to explain it without making it sound bad for him. Some of them have tried to soft-stroke it by saying that Kim 'put his infidelity on blast,' as if he had a one-time affair during a moment of weakness. First off, in order to do that you've got to recognize that you're lying to protect a real scumbag. Second, you are saying that Kim is the 'bad guy' for telling everyone, but that it's no big deal that he was unfaithful... with prostitutes... regularly... FOR YEARS.

  Thanks to topics like this and the exJW community not letting him skate by, it's not that hard for people to find out the real story. And it is a lot uglier than 'Kim told the world about Lloyd's slight misstep, she's a meanie.' How much work does it take to find lloyevans.info and read the letters to his wife? Because Kim didn't put those on blast, and I think they are way worse than his video confession.
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  happy new year!

  time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

  he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

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  We've mentioned it before- he was used to having a lot of people sending him money each month, while other people did the bulk of the behind-the-scenes work for little or no pay. Now he would have to do a lot more work with lower revenue, and deal with the constant reminders that he outed himself as a lousy person. If he didn't have the drive and energy to do more than the minimum when things were going great, you can imagine how tough it is to do anything channel-related now.

  I'm just wondering how many more free trips around the world are his supporters willing to fund, as his output and interest continue to decline.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  He went from 367 paid members to 361.

  And in the same time frame, he went from 629 posts to... 624?

  Even his Patreon posts are leaving!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I'm both impressed and feeling as if I shouldn't be surprised. He does not seem to have made any effort at keeping them aboard this time.
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  The Next Big Thing In WT World

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
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  things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

  there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

  now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

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  Vidiot: …that deep down, “The World” actually knew we had “The Truth”,

  Anytime someone uses a form of "you know it's true" you should always imagine them preceding it with "now, I don't have a shred of proof for this, but..."
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  The Next Big Thing In WT World

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
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  things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

  there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

  now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

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  Jan: So are there 'consequences'to wearing trousers when they shouldn't ?

  I don't know how it would be handled today. When I was in, I don't think I ever saw a sister go to a meeting or door-to-door wearing pants. But a sister who did so would likely have been admonished by an elder, and I suppose they would not have allowed her to go door-to-door, although I don't think they would have asked her to leave a meeting. I am pretty sure that they would have given a talk from the podium or at least a short discussion of "decorum" in a future meeting, to make clear that it was not acceptable.
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  Is a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses marries a disfellowshipped person, what is the outcome?

  by EdenOne in

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  2. beliefs

  hello all.. i need a quick answer, and also a solid reference in the literature, please.. if a jw marries an unbeliever, there is reproof, it's frowned upon, it's disloyal, there will be loss of privileges, etc, but there's no other more serious consequences.

  but, in a scenario where two people are free to marry, but one is a baptized jw and the other is disfellowshipped / disassociated, what are the consequences?.

  thanks for your help.. r..

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  I don't think there is a specific written rule about it. When I was in, I would have considered that a DF offense, in that you are being pretty blatant about your disrepect of the organization. Today? I think it's dumb to DF people and shun them, so go ahead and get hitched. If they DF you, they're doing you a favor. Enjoy your freedom.
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  The Next Big Thing In WT World

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

  there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

  now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

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  Jan, women are expected to wear skirts to meetings and for any preaching work (door-to-door, Bible studies, etc). Anywhere else, they are free to wear pants. In my experience, most sisters wore skirts or dresses to any get-togethers with other JWs.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  That would be almost be the proper ending to his story: him trying to find a new place to live, with the two most important criteria being that prostitution and drugs are legal. Any videos he would produce after that could be legitimately described as 'lit.'