They have seen themselves as Jesus's equal for a long time, now. You can believe in Jesus and accept his sacrifice, but you are not saved unless you follow the GB.
TonusOH
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A fun moment
by Vidiot inmy wife of many years is more-or-less pomo, but she still (nominally) believes in jehovah and the bible.. she raised her eyebrows when she realized the full scope of the csa problem… rolled her eyes when letto the clown called babies “little enemies of god”… but today, we apparently crossed a real threshold….
…her response to the governing body being referred to as “our future kings” was….
…“what????!!!!!”.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TonusOH
AudeSapere: 1:1 is the best way for anyone except Lloyd to know the real number and not let others know when someone drops.
That's a good point. He can apply pressure directly and privately to those individuals now. I hope they aren't comparing notes...
Interesting breakdown, LMsA. So he might be looking at around $1,500-2,200 per month. Which is pretty good for someone living in Croatia. I honestly have to wonder where all the money went when he was making two-to-four times as much. Are hookers that expensive?
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On May 3, 2024, the worldwide United Methodist Church apologized to survivors of clergy sexual abuse.
by was a new boy in'many survivors of clergy sexual abuse have never received an apology or any acknowledgement of the harm they suffered.
but at the may 3, 2024, meeting of the general conference of the worldwide united methodist church in charlotte, north carolina, the following resolution of apology to all survivors and their families was approved.. .
“the united methodist church apologizes for the times we allowed our desire to protect the church to outweigh our desire to care for victims and survivors of sexual misconduct.
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TonusOH
I'd be truly shocked if the GB offered even an acknowledgement of the scope of the problem, much less an apology. Too much ego for that to happen.
As for "[e]ducate Church leaders regarding sacred trust in ministerial relationships and power imbalance within those relationships"? What education is needed? How do you become a 'leader' in any Christian church without somehow figuring out that you should not molest children? No one needs "educating" on this topic. They need to change policies so that the people doing this are reported to the authorities and removed from their positions right away. They need to stop protecting people who do something that you know is wrong and evil.
How can any organization even begin to address this issue when they pretend not to understand the actual problem?
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Did you consider Paul as false prophet?
by PeterNobody indear brothers!
you as a bible researchers, refused the catholicism, but still use the books which catholic church defined as the source of truth.
did you consider paul as a false prophet?
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TonusOH
PeterNobody: He claims, knowing 10 commandments makes the people sinners! Those are Satan's words!
It sounds, to me, as if Paul is describing the concept of divine command. He's not slandering god, he's making god the sole arbiter of what constitutes sin. This isn't a foreign (or even controversial) concept to many Christians.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TonusOH
I had been wondering what the split was of patrons in the various levels, since that would determine how well he was doing financially. If a lot of them were in the $50 tier, he could still be in good shape. The change to the tiers would indicate that there are either none, or just one or two as Aude says. I doubt he'd want to schedule more than a couple of calls a month; he didn't seem too enthusiastic about the Zoom calls, after all.
This could be a bad move, though. Does anyone really want to have a monthly 1-on-1 conversation with him? Does he want to have them? Paying $50 a month to either be ghosted or listen to 10 minutes of excuses before some 'emergency' ends the call sounds like a bad deal.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TonusOH
Looks like he ended the monthly Zoom videos?
But replaced them with monthly 1-on-1 meetings? That should go well...
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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TonusOH
That also demonstrates his lack of self-awareness. Having gotten a new lease on life, he built a brand that provided him with more money than he should have known what to do with. That was a great opportunity to count his blessings and get his shit in order, including helping his in-laws financially and contributing to a stable home life. The kind of thing you might do as a show of appreciation for not being kicked to the curb like you deserved.
He blew it all up. And he has not stopped lighting matches.
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2024 Pioneer Manual!
by Atlantis inthey are calling this the 2024 pioneer book.
it was actually printed in september of 2023, but that will be alright.
click the 3 white dots at the top right to download.. .
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TonusOH
The WTS has probably spent more time trying to find Atlantis than even the most dedicated archaeologist.
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A Real Man
by Vanderhoven7 inthe meaning of true love from a man.. by elizabeth rossi, freelance writer .
i hate to say this but most women will go their entire lifetime and never experience the meaning of actual true love.. it's even slightly depressing to think that most people will never understand how powerful this picture actually is; a prime example of how men should be treating their partner with everyday that passes.. we unfortunately live in a generation with men who have no idea what it takes to be a real man.. let me give you a couple examples of a real man ....... a real man asks about your day and genuinely cares about the answer.. a real man respects your boundaries and never forces you to anything you're not ready to do.. he makes time for you, and takes that time to learn and understand who you are as a person.. a real man consistently shows you the definition of effort with every day that passes.. he will call you randomly throughout the day just to check on you and your mental health.. a real man is undeniably committed to you and looks for new ways to fall in love with you with every day that passes.. he makes protecting your heart a number one priority.. a real man never makes permanent decisions based on temporary emotions.. he never confuses you on where you stand in his life.. a real man apologizes when he is wrong and stays true to his character.. he doesn't mind hurting other people's feeling to protect yours.. a real man gives you affection without sexual expectation.. a real man refuses to entertain any women that isn't you.. he has genuine intentions with you from day one and shows you how it truly feels to be a priority rather an option.. a real man will help you heal from the trauma that nobody apologized for.. a real man values you and would never put themselves in a position to lose you.. take my advice and wait for the man that never let's you fall asleep at night questioning your own self worth.. .
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TonusOH
Those are actually pretty old lists of things that mark the 'ideal man.' It's mostly wishful thinking. It would be interesting to see how those lists evolve over time. What would be the traits of an ideal man 150 years ago? Probably less about feelings and more about strength and assertiveness. A current day list would be tricky to write, since we no longer agree on what a man even is.
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40 Years Ago Today: May 15th 1984 "1914 Generation" issue was released. False prophecy, thy name is WatchTower.
by WingCommander init's incredible how this cover, and also this "series" of watchtower's is burned into my mind.
i was almost 5 years old when these were released.
“1914 and you” — may 1, 1984 watchtower.
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TonusOH
Russell's original interpretation of 1914 was that it would be the end, not the beginning of the end. I'm guessing that the people who were really disappointed in his mistake were the JWs who believed that he was guided by anything but his own ideas. The rest of us were taught that he never said any of this, that he pegged the start of the last days because god was helping him. My generation of witnesses would have been disappointed by 1975, not 1914.