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The comment section is a gold mine.
Not surprising: Lloyd stating that he was done responding to comments, then spending time to respond to another dozen (or two dozen) comments.
Surprising: The apology from one of his former patrons, who admitted to taking his $50-per-month (!!!!) to another exJW youtuber.
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Oh, I think I get it. In Croatia, defamation is also treated as a criminal offense. His lawyer had mentioned the "crime of insult" in his letters. That is where he appears to be confused. My guess: he can file civil charges for defamation, but there isn't much that can be done on the criminal end of things unless he manages to get Kim extradited for the crime of being a meany-face on the internet.
I'll bet the judge who ends up having to deal with Lloyd will have some stories to tell when it is all over. Maybe he'll stop by this thread and let us know how it went. I'm thinking it will be around page 420.
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Wait... Croatia has a 90-day statute of limitations on civil action related to defamation? Or is he referring to something else?
It's embarrassing to see him apparently confuse civil and criminal action. Kim points out that he cannot file criminal charges against her, and he goes on about the 90-day limit on defamation claims. I get the impression that his fingers are typing faster than his mind can process what he is reading.
And I think it's awesome that she pinned his comment. A great way to show who is open to criticism (pinning critical comments) and who isn't (furiously deleting critical comments).
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Almost 2000 replies, too. Who knew that a green screen controversy could go on this long?!?!?!
what is the harm or downside of being pimo?.
i get all the good things about being in the cong, good social life lots of invites to bbqs and meals out.
lots of interesting gossip š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£.
I wasn't really PIMO, but I can't imagine going to the weekly meetings (especially the midweek ones) and to field service for something I don't believe is real. I think that, on some level, I was already mentally gone before I consciously admitted it, and that made it easier to slowly drift away from the activities without really feeling guilty. There came a point where I felt like I had to drag myself to any JW activities and any excuse to stay home sounded good enough.
And that was when I thought I was still convinced it was the truth!
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Rather than approach me privately to resolve matters, Dykstra allowed herself to be swayed by the Brooksā and other activists who had an axe to grind. I eventually received a formal ācease and desistā letter via UPS at my home in Croatia, which probably cost more to write and send than the total value of the bootleg books.
It's as if he looks at a situation, then thinks "is there a way I can make myself look like an even bigger douchebag?"
And then he brainstorms for a few hours and starts writing about it.
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How are his Patrons not seeing through this nonsense?
He lost more than 300 of them, if I am not mistaken. That's pretty significant. The remaining ones may be die-hard supporters or not aware of what is happening (ie, not paying much attention or possibly not watching videos, but content to support his efforts).
Kim- I think the 2017 event is Marko's letter. Others here would know if that's correct or not.
i was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.
2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?
are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..
I have to agree with NonCoinCollector. There are good things I could point to from my time as a JW, but I could have gotten those from other religious (or possibly even secular) groups. And perhaps it would not have come with the baggage that I am left with.
Maybe the one thing that I could list as a benefit on some level, is that their teaching that death is the end of existence is much better than the notion of eternal suffering in the afterlife. I occasionally feel a bit sad at the idea of missing out, but that is far better than the terror many people feel over thoughts of hell. Even people who stop believing in god find that their subconscious fear of eternal torment does not go away when they consciously decide there is no afterlife.
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Let's be honest, no one is disfellowshipped for anything besides not offering enough of a grovelling apology to the elders.
One of my sisters was told by an elder -during a sit down with them- that she had to apologize to him personally to see some matter resolved. She wasn't baptized, and was not the kind of person to take that sort of intimidation attempt lying down, so his request was... denied.
She walked away from the JWs not long after that.
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They do not, as far as I have ever been aware, disfellowship people for divorcing, though they do discourage it. The divorced witness can only remarry if it can be proven that their spouse committed adultery while married. Barring that, they would be considered adulterers if they remarried.
