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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  TonusOH

  That whole statement is cringe-worthy enough. Now, consider that he is sending it to HIS WIFE.

  The man is trash. To his supporters: that is what you are supporting.
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  Why didn't they just tell people Rutherford needed to move to San Diego?

  by SydBarrett in

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  from wikipedia: "rutherford had reportedly lost the use of one lung from pneumonia suffered during his imprisonment in 1918 and 1919. finding new york's winter weather "impossible", rutherford was encouraged by a doctor to "spend as much time as possible" in a more favorable climate.

  " why not just tell the people exactly what it says above?

  why all the mumbo jumbo about purchasing it for ancient worthies to be resurrected?

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  TonusOH

  It may be that Rutherford was the type not to let an opportunity go to waste. Instead of pitching the idea that he needed a place to rest and recuperate, he could have an opulent home built for those great men of the past (who, serendipitously, were soon to be resurrected and would need lodging). And if he happened to use it in the meantime, he could use the cover story to deflect any possible criticism.

  Also, King David wasn't going to be driven around in any old car, was he?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I think he cares about YouTube views because it puffs up his ego. He must really hate that so many other exJW channels are able to get many more views per video, even with smaller subscriber counts and nowhere near as much self-promotion. It's the oldest lesson in the book: be patient, produce content, carefully cultivate a following, cater to that following, and be patient. Also, don't be an obnoxious douchebag all the time.

  For someone who has tried so hard to sideline anyone who wanted to do exJW content, it has to burn him pretty bad to see so many of them doing better than him, while also making videos judging him and exposing who he is. I'm guessing that his main goal in growing his channel and Patreon is to gather a large enough following that he can go after everyone and crush them. Every day that this doesn't happen must be agony for him.
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  Biden running in 2024 🤣

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i've filed this under news and world events, although i could've posted it under entertainment, lol.

  apparently, joe biden will be seeking re-election for another term in the white house.. this, despite a recent poll showing that 70% of people don't want him to run again.. biden just has to be the worst president i've seen.

  his gaffes, over-relience on a prompter, and, more than any other president, his refusal to answer journalists' questions, all go to make him top of the list in terms of bad presidents.. it will certainly provide entertainment, if nothing else..

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  Well, this has the makings of a disaster.

  Democrats must be wishing that Biden will eventually decide not to run, and Harris will agree to be dumped to the sidelines. The one possible benefit of Biden/Harris running again is that they would probably avoid a contentious primary season, while the Republican primaries are likely to be a brutal bloodbath. Their hope is that the GOP fractures and whichever of Trump or DeSantis wins will lose too much support as voters stay home in protest. But this is counting on Biden being able to handle the rigor of a campaign, and I just don't think he is up to it.

  I do wonder if they'll make Kamala Harris step aside and find someone else to run as Biden's VP, with the understanding that they will be there to fill in when Biden is finally determined to be unfit to complete his term. If anything scares voters more than an aging Biden or Trump, it's the thought of President Harris.
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  Breaking News: JW's lose 1st round of Norway appeal!

  by BoogerMan in

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  they are still officially deregistered in norway - and have to pay all the legal costs.

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  share the good news.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/130cwcm/we_won_first_round_verdict_is_out_norway_vs_wt_10/.

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  I assume that by "first round" he is indicating that they expect the WTS to appeal. I wonder how the court system is in Norway. Will this drag out for years, or do they normally get it done quickly?
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  Why did you leave the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i've never been a witness so i never left.

  graeme hammond writes:.

  for some years i’d had a growing irritation and disillusionment with the religion: i was getting tired of the pompousness, the arrogance and the control, i felt increasingly choked by their restrictions and i was drained by their demands on my time.

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  I wanted to believe that they were telling the truth, which is why I avoided any exJW or anti-JW info until I came to the realization that I didn't believe in god. But by the time that happened, I was well into a very long and gradual fade.

  So I don't know what specifically would be the teaching that made me start to distance myself. I do recall that some of the statements bugged me, in that the implication was often that loyalty and obedience to the organization was more important than being correct. If you disagreed with an interpretation, you had to accept the organization's explanation or you could be df'ed for apostasy. If, later, the organization changed their interpretation to mirror yours, you could not be reinstated. Being right didn't matter. Being obedient did.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Indeed, feel free to skip the anti-Lloyd videos. All you need to know is in his 97 minute livestream, and in his letters to his wife, and in his book (okay, I won't advise anyone to read his book, that would be mean), and in his forum posts here and other posts he has made over the past 10-12 years.

  If his own words don't make it clear what kind of person he really is, then by all means help him keep his "wife-is-not-enough" jar full of coin. Otherwise he might threaten to stop making videos... again!
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  Opening doors, putting your foot in the door and other dangerous activities

  by Anony Mous in

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  i was listening to the news and there is this big brouhaha about someone shooting someone through their front door.

  apparently the person tried to open the door of an elderly person, scaring the homeowner and they shot a gun injuring the person.

  obvious castle doctrine case.. which made me remember a rather overzealous old pioneer that used the same tactics when he knew the homeowners were home but didn’t want to come to the door, he would start opening the storm doors and try to see if the door was unlocked so he could yell inside.

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  I recall we had one or two brothers who were notorious for placing a foot in the doorway to prevent the homeowner from closing the door. But we lived in a fairly rough area and that is not something that was recommended!

  There were some apartment complexes where the lobby entrance doors were always locked, and the only way in was with a key or to get "buzzed in" by a tenant. Some brothers would buzz apartments at random, because many people would unlock the doors without checking to see who was there (no, it doesn't make sense, but they did it).
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  When Did the Watchtower Introduce the "Generation of 1914" Teaching?

  by Ding in

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  i'm looking for help to track down the development of the "generation" doctrine, starting with when the wt first specifically tied the end to the generation of 1914.. russell taught that 1914 would be the end of this system of things.

  when that failed, rutherford started touting 1925.. no need to talk about generations then; it was just specific dates.. when did they first tie the end in to a "generation of 1914" time frame?.

  i also know that they changed the meaning of generation several times.. first, a person had to have been at least 15 in order to have seen the events of 1914 with understanding of what was happening.. i think they lowered that to 10 and then finally it was anyone who was alive in 1914.. of course, now the generation overlaps.. does anyone know someone where all these wt teachings are set out chronologically (preferably with citations to the literature)?.

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  In Crisis of Conscience, Ray Franz claims that WT publications had been using the 'generations' teaching since the 1940s, though he does not present any specific examples.

  He does mention an issue that arose in 1978, when it appears that GB member Albert Schroeder had suggested to people that Mattew 24:34 applied to the generation of anointed JWs, and that as long as any of them were alive the "generation" would not technically have "passed away." It's interesting, in light of the recent change which introduced the concept of 'overlapping generations.' Looks like it may have been an old idea that was finally made official.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Diamondfrog: Wow. Back in 2014.

  As far as anyone can tell, he's always been like this. There is plenty of evidence on this forum, which he was a part of for a time around ten years ago. He has not changed, based on the experiences of so many people who have crossed paths with him.

  The big difference is that people know a lot more about him now, because he let his guard down. Perhaps he felt it was safe to do so, perhaps he was distracted and foundering. But he gave up the game, and now it's out there, and it's no longer so easy for people to shut down his critics when they point out that it's not only his sexual hang-ups that are a problem.

  This will follow him. The number of people he's trampled (or attempted to trample) over the past decade means that there are plenty of them out there waiting for an opportunity to twist the knife. He can't trust his wife or even Tibor, IMO. At some point, they'll be free enough from him that they might decide to spill the beans. Being a terrible human being will follow him for a very long time. It may ease up occasionally, but it won't go away.