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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Thisismein1972: was forced out, hence the branch rep being at his judicial, and Lloyd trying to blackmail him.

  I don't believe that the meeting went anything like he described. It's a nice story for his supporters and a way to promote himself as a big shot to them. And I'm even willing to believe that he tried to threaten to destroy the WTS presence in Croatia, though I don't think he's that delusional. He would not want to risk having them laugh in his face. He certainly had to know that they wouldn't be concerned in the least with his threats to take down the org in a place where he didn't speak the language, didn't know many people, and was probably already disliked in his own home.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Interesting. In his private message to his patrons he drops any talk of defamation/hate campaigns.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Diogenesister, No worries.

  And even though you know it is how he will react, it's still a bit of a surprise to see how lacking in self-awareness Evans is. The guy who spent so much time judging and making fun of the WTS and governing body members suddenly thinks that people shouldn't be too quick to judge those they don't have shared experiences with.

  Makes that Jaracz video seem a bit creepy now, doesn't it?

  He did it in those letters to Dijana as well. Told her she doesn't know enough about psychology to analyze him, in the same letters where he was explaining her motivations and mindset to her. It's like he doesn't review what he writes, or he sees it through a distorted lens.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  It is good to see people pointing out that he made a decision/choice, not a mistake. People use the word "mistake" to take the edge off of bad behavior. But there is a big difference between doing something by mistake and deciding on a deliberate course of action.

  Misspelling your name on a form is a mistake. Putting salt in your coffee when you meant to use sugar is a mistake. Visiting prostitutes for years behind your wife's back is NOT a mistake. Being an obnoxious jerk to people is NOT a mistake. Those are revelatory behaviors. His livestream was a mistake. Thinking he could bully Kim into silence was a mistake. Being a greedy douchebag is NOT a mistake. Sexting women behind his wife's back is NOT a mistake. With enough examples, I think we can make the point clear.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  And it's a clip from his livestream. So they are getting the info straight from the horse's ass mouth.
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - October 2023

  by DerekMoors in

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  it's not too early to place your bets for how many patrons his royal thighness will lose in october.

  as of this writing, his tally stands at 457. so, where do you think he'll be on october 2?

  lucky number 420?

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  Those numbers are like his penis-- seemingly out of control, yet easy to predict.
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  When did you see realise James Lloyd Evans was a wrongun?

  by usualusername1 in

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  i remember him on this site when he was called cedars and had jw survey.. straightaway i noticed he could not accept suggestions.. the time i knew he was dangerous was when his group aawa added people to their fb group without their permission and were outed.. he refused to close the fb page (whilst celebrating 1300 members joining in a few days).

  one member complained and was subsequently disfellowshipped, which could easily have been avoided.. three week's after launching, the fb page was closed down.

  from that moment i knew james lloyd evans was dangerous.. when did you realise he not good?.

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  Jan, I don't recall what the letters stood for, but it was a support group for JWs who were only in because they feared shunning. If I have the details correct, Evans began sending invites to the group, which would show up in a person's Facebook activity feed, effectively outing them. When the problem was brought up, Evans seemed more annoyed that he was being admonished and less concerned about the lives he had just disrupted.

  As for when I realized he was bad, that would be around the time of his livestream confession video. I had watched many of his shorter videos from time-to-time and knew nothing about him. I did know about this forum, though I had not signed up. So when I learned that there was some kind of scandal around him, I figured I might find more info here. And I found a lot more than I expected!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  At least a few of the comments in that Reddit thread are from people who knew of Evans but did not know of his recent scandal, even more than two years later. So it shows how topics like this one still serve a purpose after all this time- there are still people who only know him as an exJW doing "good work" against the WTS. And they don't buy his bullshit explanations for why he is a bad husband and father.

  At this point, I doubt any of his patrons are unaware that something happened. And it's pretty easy to find out the details. They can get most of it from Evans himself.
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  Your Opinion of Jehovah's Witnesses and Their Religion?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i thought this fellow, not sure if he is pimo or pomo, who goes by the name anonymous, gives a fair opinion summary.. "i was a jw for many years, but generally not a particularly stellar example of one.

  your question has two components, and i will address them separately:.

  opinion of jws as a people:.

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  It is one of numerous religions that use social pressure as a key component. They expect members to limit their association with anyone who is not a member in good standing (with some leeway for those who are not yet baptized but show the propensity to do so). There are many religions that request/require some level of social self-limiting, but few are as strict. The selection criteria is simple- anyone who isn't a JW --or isn't showing genuine interest in becoming one-- is to be avoided socially as much as possible.

  It is an unreasonable level of control, and it is unhealthy. It harms families and individuals by placing unnecessary mental and emotional burdens on them.
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - October 2023

  by DerekMoors in

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  it's not too early to place your bets for how many patrons his royal thighness will lose in october.

  as of this writing, his tally stands at 457. so, where do you think he'll be on october 2?

  lucky number 420?

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  Those numbers give me the impression that he pushed hard to get people to become patrons and had some success, but others are dropping away as the content either slows or becomes less about the WTS and more about Lloyd and his personal battles against his persecutors. As with the "criminal lawsuits," he tells them of this grave conspiracy to ruin him, but is conspicuous in his unwillingness to provide even the slightest detail. 'It's not your business,' he probably tells them, as he asks them to support him with their wallets.

  I wonder what happens if any of them ask for those details. I suspect it is not pleasant. It's tough to support someone with your dollars if you're not sure they are deserving of it. 'Trust me, or I'll get upset' is not the sort of attitude that inspires confidence. I'm sure he explained to them why he wiped out his Twitter accounts, but I wonder how many of them are no longer convinced by his explanations...