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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  "I just wanted to reach out and apologise for being fairly quiet lately, including with the monthly perks like the Zoom calls..."

  Sooo... did he skip out on another Zoom call?
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  The FDS Photoshop

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  for those interested in the latest version of the faithful slave.

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  from the february 2024 watchtower .

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  They should add Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, and Franz as ghosts hovering over the group.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Almost any outcome would be realistic, in a situation like his. I find it difficult to predict any particular outcome because there are so many possibilities.

  If he can stabilize his Patreon support, he could get by for years on that income. But he would gradually have to scale back on anything outside of necessities, which will put a real strain on him. He lived a very comfortable life before, and he still seems to have time for multiple vacations a year. Losing that would really hurt.

  Money issues aside, his primary concern is burnout. He was trying to pivot away from exJW content, but now he has to stick with it to keep the money flowing. And he has to do all of the work now, instead of having others do most of it for little or no pay. I'm not sure he can keep going under those circumstances. Not for very long, anyway.

  The other question is how the "legal issues" turn out. At some point, the sham lawsuit will crumble and he will have to deal with the fallout from it. His control of the narrative is already slipping, and will continue to get out of hand as time goes on. His determination to push back at every step will make this situation worse.

  My best guess for where he is in two years? Fighting to keep the tatters of his reputation intact while his Patreon support dips below the minimum level he needs to finance even a modest life for himself. What happens when he cannot support his family anymore? What new secrets might find their way to the internet then?
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  Encouraging scriptures for the day

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello my friends,.

  here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

  revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

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  Seven pieces! Does it have a set bonus? :wink:
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  Just had a thought…

  by Vidiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….

  …dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….

  …i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….

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  When doubts manifest, one of the possible reactions is to double down and dig in. The more you do that, the more sunk the cost gets. So it builds on itself and you get someone whose devotion borders on fanatical.
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  "...The Most Important Day of the Year" Watchtower January,2024

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what a mockery that statement is to over 99% of their followers.

  there is nothing biblically that makes the jw memorial day important to anyone that does not partake.

  they still continue to say .

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  "Give them loving attention... for now."
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  He was feeling sorry for himself during the livestream. He 'broke down' when he was reading the message he wrote about feeling that everything was pointless. Then he started talking about his family and the tears dried up instantly.

  I do think he was already growing tired of the exJW video grind, though. He was always dumping on exJWs as a group. It has only increased in the past two years. I think he wanted to move on from Watchtower-related stuff. And I don't think it would have worked out well. He would still have a stressful home life, or he would have eventually left home and be in a similar position to where he is now- wanting to be free from the responsibilities of a husband and father, but still obligated financially to his wife and daughters.

  I think it would have blown up on him at some point, though probably not as bad as it has thanks to the livestream video. And I just can't see where he would have carved out a successful niche for himself. He's just not driven enough. I think he was doomed to failure. He has had the misfortune of accelerating it by making a lot of bad decisions in a short time. But I think he would have eventually burned out and probably gone down in flames.
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  Lawyers release survey on alleged Jehovah's Witness child abuse

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a team of lawyers has released the results of its survey on alleged child abuse by members of the jehovah's witnesses religious group in japan.. the team held a news conference in tokyo on monday.

  it provides legal support to former members of the group as well as to children of its members.. the lawyers conducted the survey, following the publishing of the health and welfare ministry guidelines last year about child abuse related to parents' religious beliefs.

  a total of 560 people responded.. the survey shows 81 percent of the respondents said they had cards indicating they desired to refuse blood transfusions.. the ministry's guidelines state that parents' refusal of medical treatments for children on religious grounds amounts to neglect --- a form of abuse.. the lawyers said investigations are necessary to find how many people died from refusing blood transfusions, and how many of them were children.. the survey also shows 92 percent of the respondents experienced whipping, 96 percent were banned from school activities, and 93 percent were forced to limit their human relations.. the lawyers said many of the children experienced physical and mental abuse, which afterward led to problems such as loneliness, sense of alienation and a lack of self-esteem.

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  The group said it had consistently advised parents to teach and discipline their children in a loving manner in harmony with what the Bible teaches.

  Which is to say... spare the rod and spoil the child. Which sure seems to encourage physical beatings as an approved form of discipline.
  
  
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  Why Jehovah's Witnesses leave the Organisation

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i like this guy's analysis .

  https://youtu.be/vzkjbnjh5nu?si=ug_ahnird6ygsm41.

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  Some of the restrictions can also seem petty or unnecessary. I can remember the gossip whenever someone left or was DF, about how their lives had changed. We would comment on how a young man now had his hair down to his shoulders, or had an earring, or grew out his beard, or was smoking cigarettes, or (gasp!) had a tattoo! He was wearing a t-shirt with the logo for some music band, possibly one of those demonic heavy metal acts! He celebrated his birthday! He bought Christman presents! He said "bless you" when someone sneezed! He had a mohawk hairdo! He came out as gay!

  Then you leave the organization and you realize just how suffocating it was. Did we really feel shame or sadness for that young man, or were we gossiping because we were jealous that he could do so many simple things that we were denying to ourselves? It is so insane when you finally look at it from the outside.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Why does he still have the jwwatch.org text on his videos? The site is dead. It still leads to a blank website with "There has been a critical error on this website." as the only text.

  Maybe he can add the link to his old twitter account while he's at it.