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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  TonusOH

  A gullible person.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  TonusOH

  The people still paying are probably the real die-hards, the ones who refuse to hear anything bad about him and have memory-holed the livestream or rationalized it the way Evans did. The slow drain that is happening now is probably due more to the lack of content and broken promises. I'm sure that there are quite a few of them whose support is contigent on actually getting something for their money. A few more months like April and they might begin to leave.

  Once they are gone, we'll see who the real hardcore supporters are. I'm also curious to see how many vacation trips he will be able to take the rest of this year.
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  1,500 Days since Stephen Lett said this:

  by Chevelle in

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  "so the events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we’re living in the final part of the last days.

  undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days.

  shortly before the last day of the last days.

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  So much for their explanation that they never make any definitive statements and it is the rank-and-file who read too much into their words sometimes.
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  Bible study

  by GregT in

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  i used to attend the meetings and was baptized about 30 years ago but i haven't gone to the meetings or associated with any one i new from the congregation for around 15 - 20 years.

  i want to get back to studying but i am not ready to go to any meetings.

  other than the watchtower and awake what book is used these days for people just starting to study with jehovah's witnesses?.

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  TonusOH

  I don't think the WatchTower publications are designed to get you to think critically. Nor do they seem to like people who try to get others to do so. They still want you to read and remember the info in the book so that it shapes your views for you. Analyzing or questioning what they write is not encouraged.
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  Watchtower Campus

  by Gorb in

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  information about the new watchtower campus, ready in 2027.. https://www.brplusa.com/projects/watchtower-bible-tract-society-new-headquarters-campus-development.

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  TonusOH

  Sounds innovative... and a bit costly.
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  1,500 Days since Stephen Lett said this:

  by Chevelle in

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  "so the events unfolding around us are making clearer than ever that we’re living in the final part of the last days.

  undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days.

  shortly before the last day of the last days.

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  TonusOH

  I guess at some point they will tell us that Armageddon happened invisibly. They weren't wrong, they were right and we just didn't notice!
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  TonusOH

  I look forward to the day when "paid members" means that he had to pay them to join.
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  TonusOH

  Honestly, an old guy falling asleep in a meeting isn't necessarily narcolepsy. It's just what we do when we get old and end up sitting in a boring meeting.
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  Latinos Leving Organized Religion- LA Times article

  by SouthCentral in

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  https://www.latimes.com/delos/story/2024-04-30/generational-differences-latinos-leaving-religion.

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  TonusOH

  Oh, don't get me started*. It amazes me anytime a group that emphasizes respecting other cultures then turns around and tells one of those cultures that they need to update their entire language in order to gain their approval.

  I am not a "latine." I am not "latinx." I am latino. Your gender politics do not trump (hah) my culture and my language. Our use of a gender-based language offends you? Your politics-driven attempt to reshape our language offends an entire global culture. So get out of here with that bullshit.

  *Oops! Too late. lol
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  Why does it matter whether or not Armageddon is near?

  by TxNVSue2023 in

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  why does it matter whether or not the end of the world ( (armageddon) is near?

  if it was next week, next year, next decade, next century?

  what is to be gained by knowing how close or far it is?

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  TxNVSue2023: No one is going to buy their way to the new world with extra activity or donations.

  I agree with your premise. A lack of sincerity will not fool a god who knows our thoughts and intentions. For a believer, this truth should be paramount and ever-present and should guide their every living moment. But I would gather that there are very few people who live this kind of a life, even when they are devout believers in god and in their religious doctrines. It is no accident that "the end is near" messages have been almost constant in the centuries since the birth of Christianity. Perhaps we were created to lack urgency?

  By and large, most people --including many devout believers-- live their daily lives with little more than a passing recognition of this cosmic responsibility, despite knowing that a very great or very awful outcome awaits. I think fewer and fewer people are convinced that anything will happen within their lifetimes, if at all. For the believer, this should be moot-- if god will bring about a specific future, it will happen. But I can't help but feel as if more and more, people are living their lives as if nothing is going to happen. And for all of them to date, this attitude has been justified.

  An eternal god can exercise eternal patience. A very time-limited human race cannot. At some point, god has to show up, or the human race might realize that he's not something they need to concern themselves with.