Posts by jp1692

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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall

by pale.emperor in

has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.

jp1692

Steve2, look up!

Oh, I see that BB reposted the relevant bits.

One problem with this religion is that they have an excessive number of rules, so many that even the elders that want to try to follow them (for messed up reasons) can't. Also, the WTBTS had the incredibly annoying habit of changing them in capricious, arbitrary and completely unpredictable ways.

Add to that the human tendency to add even more rules and you have these inconsistent rules and practices.

It is of course all bullshit just designed to control.

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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall

by pale.emperor in

has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.

jp1692

K99, thanks for the link!

Here are three relevant quotes from that 2013 QFR:

It is not required that a disfellowshipped person sit at the back of the hall
There is no reason to be unduly concerned about the seating location of a disfellowshipped person in the Kingdom Hall.
Whether a disfellowshipped person sits next to a relative or next to any other member of the congregation should not be a cause for concern as long as he behaves properly. [Emphasis added]

There there it is. The borg doesn't really care where a DF'd person sits in the KH as long as they sit down, shut up and behave yourself.

It's all about one thing: CONTROL!

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Another example of the smothering and high control nature of JW husbands

by stuckinarut2 in

i have noticed another popular pattern of behaviour amongst witnesses in recent years.. many, and i mean lots of ones with instagram accounts have closed the wife's account, and have started a "couple's" account instead.

also, for families.

the children's accounts have been closed, and the husband starts a "family account".. it is mainly on the husband's device, and seemingly under his control.

jp1692

Wake Me's mom: "Don't you think they're busy with their own lives?" she'd reason. "They have so much to do, yet they make the time for you. You should be grateful."

See, if the elders would "get a life" and mind their own business we'd all be happier!

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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?

by waton in

`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .

jp1692

We now have a JW inspired curse: Go overlap yourself!

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honesty

by midnight in

regarding the recent 1975 video at the convention it hit me !.

when reasoning with people about the inspiration of the bible we used the bible writers candor ie/ there honesty when recording bible accounts about there personal mistakes .. how come the governing body despite its claims to be spirit directed are not honest about there mistakes ?.

jp1692

Midnight: how come the governing body despite its claims to be spirit directed are not honest about there [sic] mistakes ?

Asked and answered.

They are NOT "spirit-directed." Hell, they don't even have the basic decency of the average person to admit when they are wrong!

They are liars and liars gotta lie.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

jp1692

Steve2: Now, the nations - if they ever paid attention at all - would know that the name of the true God is jw-dot-org. Before this True God, all must bow:

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

jp1692

WIT12: i'll never be able to understand how a religion can destroy the bond that should naturally exist between a parent and their kid.

We get this. That's because you do not understand cult dynamics and we do. We have learned this the hard way: through painful, personal experience.

Learn from our mistakes and save yourself a lot of heartache and grief.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

jp1692

SBF, on a more serious note: have you considered the obvious point that--even if JWs are "right" about the divine name--they are so completely and undeniably WRONG about so many other really key doctrinal issues and important issues that there is no way in hell they could possibly be the "one true religion."

Also, as has been discussed endlessly: no one really knows how to completely spell or accurately pronounce the name that is represented by the tetragrammaton:

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

jp1692

Rastafarians use "Jah" and "Jehovah."

Maybe they're the one true religion. Even if they aren't, they have great music and some good weed to smoke mon!

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so confused!!

by whatisthis12 in

is it possible to keep a somewhat relationship with your family if they are witnesses and have a "worldly" girlfriend?

i just posted a post, and found this site to be very helpful.

sorry to repost but my other thread brought up some other questions.

jp1692

WIT12: i don't understand how he would want to go back to a kingdom hall after everything he's already gone through to get out.

Of course, this would be confusing to you.

But it's because he hasn't really left the religion completely.

People "leave" for all kinds of reasons. But--and this has been addressed in your previous thread--if a person still believes that JWs "have the Truth," they may return.

Most of us on this forum are completely convinced that JWs are just another religion doctrinally, but are worse than most because of their high-control, authoritarian and cultish practices: the coercive control and manipulation of members and the shunning of any and all that leave no matter the reason.

There is a reason that so many people that responded to your first thread used the term "cult" in their response. Do not ignore this.

We here are former and wanna-be-former Jehovah's Witnesses. We here have lost family and friends because we left the religion.

We know of what we speak.