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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall
by pale.emperor in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.
jp1692

SBF, thanks for posting that video link.
The WT leadership must LOVE making/using these videos because they are such valuable vehicles for indoctrination.
Notice the video producers don't make an "official rule" about:
Where DF'd ones should sit or how long they should expect the reinstatement process to take.
The staging of the scenes and the narration all carry the desired messages in an implicit way allowing the WT leadership to simultaneously claim they don't make rigid rules.
The passive observer takes it all in without even realizing they are being indoctrinated, manipulated and controlled.
BONUS POINT: Did you notice the young woman in the video said she was "determined to qualify for reinstatement"?
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What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?
by Iamallcool in
1. jw
2. friends
i want something different on my next pizza!.
jp1692

Mushrooms and olives
Mushrooms and pepperoni
Sliced tomatoes and artichoke hearts
Grilled chicken, red onion and cilantro with BBQ sauce instead of tomato sauce
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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?
by waton in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .
jp1692

Watson: The generation question is the one uniquely problematic for the WTBTS.
It is a self-inflicted wound.
FYI: I have "hammered" away on this particular issue with more effort and effect than you'll ever know!
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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall
by pale.emperor in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.
jp1692

Steve2, look up!
Oh, I see that BB reposted the relevant bits.
One problem with this religion is that they have an excessive number of rules, so many that even the elders that want to try to follow them (for messed up reasons) can't. Also, the WTBTS had the incredibly annoying habit of changing them in capricious, arbitrary and completely unpredictable ways.
Add to that the human tendency to add even more rules and you have these inconsistent rules and practices.
It is of course all bullshit just designed to control.
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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall
by pale.emperor in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
has anyone else heard this?

a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?

a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.
jp1692
K99, thanks for the link!
Here are three relevant quotes from that 2013 QFR:
1. It is not required that a disfellowshipped person sit at the back of the hall
2. There is no reason to be unduly concerned about the seating location of a disfellowshipped person in the Kingdom Hall.
3. Whether a disfellowshipped person sits next to a relative or next to any other member of the congregation should not be a cause for concern as long as he behaves properly. [Emphasis added]
There there it is. The borg doesn't really care where a DF'd person sits in the KH as long as they sit down, shut up and behave yourself.
It's all about one thing: CONTROL!
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Another example of the smothering and high control nature of JW husbands
by stuckinarut2 in
1. jw
2. experiences
i have noticed another popular pattern of behaviour amongst witnesses in recent years.. many, and i mean lots of ones with instagram accounts have closed the wife's account, and have started a "couple's" account instead.

also, for families.

the children's accounts have been closed, and the husband starts a "family account".. it is mainly on the husband's device, and seemingly under his control.
jp1692

Wake Me's mom: "Don't you think they're busy with their own lives?" she'd reason. "They have so much to do, yet they make the time for you. You should be grateful."
See, if the elders would "get a life" and mind their own business we'd all be happier!
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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?
by waton in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .
jp1692

We now have a JW inspired curse: Go overlap yourself!
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honesty
by midnight in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
regarding the recent 1975 video at the convention it hit me !.

when reasoning with people about the inspiration of the bible we used the bible writers candor ie/ there honesty when recording bible accounts about there personal mistakes .. how come the governing body despite its claims to be spirit directed are not honest about there mistakes ?.
jp1692

Midnight: how come the governing body despite its claims to be spirit directed are not honest about there [sic] mistakes ?
Asked and answered.
They are NOT "spirit-directed." Hell, they don't even have the basic decency of the average person to admit when they are wrong!
They are liars and liars gotta lie.
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
jp1692

Steve2: Now, the nations - if they ever paid attention at all - would know that the name of the true God is jw-dot-org. Before this True God, all must bow:
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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness
by whatisthis12 in
1. social
2. relationships
i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.
jp1692

WIT12: i'll never be able to understand how a religion can destroy the bond that should naturally exist between a parent and their kid.
We get this. That's because you do not understand cult dynamics and we do. We have learned this the hard way: through painful, personal experience.
Learn from our mistakes and save yourself a lot of heartache and grief.