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  "The battle for your mind" july 17 WT

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is such a strange article.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017488.

  notice the parts about one won't get truth if it's spoon fed.

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  Even more interesting is the source of Chomsky's quote the WT used. It is apparently from a book that is basically an interview by David Barsamian. The book is called, "Propaganda and the Public Mind" (2001). The quote is from page 158.

  
  

  Be sure to notice what Chomsky said two sentences before the quote used in the Watchtower: "You shouldn’t believe what I say it true."

  The context being, don't believe anyone just because they said it. It doesn't matter who they are or what credentials or "authority" they supposedly have. Check it out for yourself!

  This is the approach we all should take, particularly in reference to anything published by the WTBTS or spoken by any of their representatives.
  
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  "The battle for your mind" july 17 WT

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is such a strange article.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017488.

  notice the parts about one won't get truth if it's spoon fed.

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  It is telling in this article that the WT writers refer to Noam Chomsky (whom they quote) as merely an "author"!

  Remember this basic fact expressed by author Noam Chomsky: “Nobody is going to pour truth into your brain. It’s something you have to find out for yourself” (p. 28).

  For those that are not familiar with Chomsky, he is a Professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Here also is a snippet from his bio:

  • Noam Chomsky is an eminent American theoretical linguist, cognitive scientist and philosopher, who radically changed the arena of linguistics by assuming language as a uniquely human, biologically based cognitive capacity. He suggested that innate traits in the human brain give birth to both language and grammar. The most important figure in “cognitive revolution” and “analytic philosophy”, Chomsky’s wide-ranging influence also extends to computer science and mathematics.

  That's quite a bit more than just an "author," right?

  It's actually a great quote they used from Chomsky, but it is more than just a little curious that the WTBTS writers would quote Chomsky at all given his very public views on the Bible, God and Religion.

  Note this comment Chomsky once made: "If there’s a god of the old Testament, he’s a genocidal maniac!” - (See the linked video @ 0:15”):

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb-Z_0Q2vD4
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  Was there really a specific request for money in this week's meeting?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen a few comments about this week's meeting.. was there actually a part that specified an actual per-publisher amount that should be donated regularly?.

  can this be confirmed please?.

  i truly cant believe just how brazen the society seems to be getting - and how desperate they are!.

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  WTBTS: "We never ask for money or solicit funds ... except when we do!"
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  Why the verb shun is missing from the JW lexicon

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my parents when i confronted them about how unhappy i am at them shunning me, responded by saying: "you keep using the word shunning, we're not shunning you.

  "i am a bit confused how they can say that.

  i'm an ex-jw and an atheist.

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  Q: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Shun Former Members of Their Religion?

  A: Of course they do, they just lie about it—even to themselves.
  
  

  Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned. In fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.

  https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/#?insight
  
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  Why the verb shun is missing from the JW lexicon

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my parents when i confronted them about how unhappy i am at them shunning me, responded by saying: "you keep using the word shunning, we're not shunning you.

  "i am a bit confused how they can say that.

  i'm an ex-jw and an atheist.

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  They're in denial, and it ain't a river in Egypt!
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  Neitzsche And Metaphysics

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ofncf0kno&t=128s.

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  So, BBW I know what Nietzsche thought-having read many of his works for myself.

  I'm curious about what YOU think. Care to express your thoughts? Or are you just going to do another one of your famous "drive-by" cut-and-paste postings of someone else's ideas.

  Do you even have any of your OWN thoughts or do you always just borrow someone else's?
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  "The battle for your mind" july 17 WT

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is such a strange article.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017488.

  notice the parts about one won't get truth if it's spoon fed.

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  Oh the irony:

  Under [propaganda's] influence, says one scholar, men and women have been “quite easily led into the most preposterously dangerous behaviour”—such as ‘genocide, war, racist hysteria, religious intolerance and many other forms of irrational behaviour.’—Easily Led—A History of Propaganda. [Emphasis added]
  
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  "The battle for your mind" july 17 WT

  by Bad_Wolf in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is such a strange article.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017488.

  notice the parts about one won't get truth if it's spoon fed.

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  This series of articles from the June 22, 2002 Awake! is actually very informative on the subject of propaganda. It was after I read these that I realized that the writer's of the WTBTS publications know exactly what they are doing and are deliberately manipulative:

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/lv/r1/lp-e/0/21789

  
  
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  Coping With Parents' Becoming Jehovah's Witnesses

  by DNCall in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my sister recently wrote a short piece on the impact of our parents' becoming jehovah's witnesses in the 1950s.

  she was a teenager at the time.

  what is so striking and disturbing is that the same predicament faces so many teenagers to this day.

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  Thanks DNCall for sharing this story. I'm glad it had a happy ending for your sister despite the challenges she endured her last years of high school.

  Hopefully your sister's experience can be encouraging to others enduring a similar situation.

  The bad news is that for minors whose parents join the religion when they are younger, the time until their emancipation, liberation and freedom can be too long--especially for those that are born in to the religion and know nothing else.
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  Special Talks now via video

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

  well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

  here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

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  Observe how the speaker applies some of the teaching methods that will be discussed in the Kingdom Ministry School for the 2018 service year.

  How in the world is anyone supposed to observe how something will be done next year?

  Idiots!