This religion just keeps getting weirder by the day. Any illusions of them "reforming" and becoming a "kinder, gentler, more moderate religion" are just that, illusions.
Posts by jp1692
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19GDPR: Get your data from the UK Branch now, before 25-May-2018
by Fay Dehr inget your data from the uk branch now, before gdpr kicks in on 25-may-2018.
use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested.
under uk law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license.
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GDPR: help for PIMOs
by Fay Dehr inwe urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.
what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?
(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").
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jp1692
Respectful_observer wrote:
The individual must have the "Right to be Forgotten" (i.e., they must be able to dictate that all their data be permanently erased.
Good luck with that!
Note this from the JW.org website regarding data collection and retention:
YOUR RIGHTS: The religious organization has an interest in permanently maintaining data regarding an individual’s status as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Deleting such information would unduly infringe on the organization’s religious beliefs and practices. - [Emphasis added]
Source: Global Policy Personal Data - Updated April 1, 2018
Isn’t it ironic—in an Orwellian sort of way—that the WTBTS’s stated policy that they can and probably will ignore written, legitimate requests to delete personal data is listed in a section of their policy entitled: “Your Rights”?
Let’s translate the doublespeak into plain English: when it comes to the WTBTS and “your rights,” you have none.
Let’s review: It’s a cult!
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GDPR: help for PIMOs
by Fay Dehr inwe urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.
what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?
(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").
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jp1692
Just say no!
Publisher: "What? I don't get to have any 'privilieges'?"
Elder: "That's right."
Publisher: "Thank you, thank you, thank you!"
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Boundaries
by AllTimeJeff inthis post hopefully will get you thinking about therapy, along with good mental and emotional health if you are dealing with the traumatic choices associated with leaving jw's, or if you are considering leaving.
because it is a trauma.. imagine a married couple in their late 30's.
because they took last weeks watchtower seriously, they have decided to talk to an elder in their congregation because they have practiced oral sex on each other, and feel a need to confess and get "spiritual help.".
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jp1692
The subject of having and respecting appropriate boundaries is a very important one. High-control, authoritarian cults such as JWs routinely disregard them, trespassing egregiously on our personal mental, emotional, spiritual and sometimes even physical spaces.
As many of us well know, families are often ruined as a result of this. It takes a lot of hard work to repair these boundaries once they have been broken. This work begins by first recognizing that our boundaries have been violated.
Here is one of my favorite threads on the topic:
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My JW niece is getting married ... typical JW drama
by wannabefree inwe received an invitation in the mail yesterday for my jw niece's wedding.. i am posting this just to add for any lurkers to see typical jw practices.. 1st - and perfectly understandable for anybody who is or was a jw.
i'm not invited.
:) hey, i'm really not complaining about that.
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jp1692
That is just so messed up on so many levels.
Your daughter is a very forgiving person. Her JW family should be ashamed of how they are mistreating her.
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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.
by Wasanelder Once inroll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.
in one sentence tell why you left the org.
not 2 sentences.
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jp1692
Let’s review: It’s a cult!
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Apostrophe
by compound complex inthe lyrics to the song, "twinkle, twinkle, little star," are an example of apostrophe (not an apostrophe).
learn something new every day!.
twinkle, twinkle, little star, how i wonder what you are.
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Feeling pressure to attend the Memorial?
by Fay Dehr infeeling pressure to attend the memorial?.
as a former elder i write this response to hopefully help those genuinely feeling “guilt” before their god.
if you are a jehovah’s witness or an “ex-jw” (for example, disfellowshipped or lapsed), then i hope that this will be of help to you.
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jp1692
It's important for us to develop self-awareness about emotional "pressure" such as this and correctly identify the source(s) of it.
It this case, this "pressure" is the result of the indoctrinated guilt and phobias originating from the WT leadership.
These are "commands of men" that can be disregarded with complete impunity and without the slightest twinge of guilt or remorse. - Matthew 15:9
Stay away from the Kingdom Hall and enjoy your personal freedom--live your life as YOU choose and not as directed by the delusional leaders of an increasingly irrelevant cult.
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Shunning and Changes to the Brain
by Boredposter inall who are shunned know the adverse effects of such.
we feel it.
we know how it has changed us.
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jp1692
Some more relevant links:
The Pain of Exclusion (Williams) - Scientific American (Searchable in Google view, not Preview)
Pain of ostracism can be deep, long-lasting - (Williams)
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How old's the human race?
by Freedom rocks inhi does anyone know any good articles or videos about how old mankind and the earth are and carbon dating?
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i've just started looking into it but there seems to be a lot of conflicting ideas over accuracy so i'm unsure what to think.
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jp1692
I only quickly scanned this thread so forgive me if anyone else has already posted it: this is a really interesting and relatively recent addition to the science of our ancestry:
- World’s oldest Homo sapiens fossils found in Morocco - June 7, 2017 - (Science Magazine)