Posts by jp1692

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When You Die Would You Haunt The Governing Body? If It were Possible?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i've been reading a lot about reincarnation these days and i'm beginning to think that it quite possibly might be true, it seems to fit in nicely with the idea that we live in a computer simulation.. anyway according to the tibetan book of the dead when we die we seem to hang around on the earth waiting for rebirth.

at which time we could be ghosts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bardo_thodol.

jp1692

What a waste of a good haunting!

But on second thought, ... maybe I’d show up just long enough to scare the crap out of a few of them ... just for laughs you know!

Especially that arrogant prick, Anthony Morris, the Turd. Wouldn’t it be nice to play a little “ghost of Christmas Past” on him?

CUE SPOOKY MUSIC:

”Anthony, ... Anthony ... I’ve seen the way you lust after those sweet, young Bethelites in their tight, tight pants!

"I've noticed how you gaze longingly at their brightly colored socks.

“You have made Jehovah very, very sad Anthony. Do you want Jehovah to be sad? We don’t want to make Jehovah sad with us, now do we Anthony? So what do you think you should do, Anthony?

"What should you do?

”Go. Now. Run to the elders and confess your sins and maybe, just maybe 'seasons of refreshing may come from the person of Jehovah' ... AFTER YOU’VE BEEN DISFELLOWSHIPPED, KICKED OUT OF THE ORG AND HUMILIATED LIKE THE FUCKING HYPOCRITE YOU ARE YOU MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT!”

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How long is a generation?

by LevelThePlayingField in

what splain does in his talk and chart illustration is make the leap that a generation can have two groups.

and in this case the two groups span more than 108 years.

but no where in scripture is there ever a notion that a generation has two groups.

jp1692

LTPF: What Splain does in his talk and chart illustration is make the leap that a generation can have two groups.

Personally, I think Splane (or who ever is really in charge at the WTBTS) plagiarized that chart from this three year old thread:

This Overlapping Generation teaching is really complete nonsense

Timeline:

January 15, 2014: Watchtower Study Article: "Let Your Kingdom Come" But When?, (p. 30-31, paragraphs 14 - 16): WT attempts to explain 1st & 2nd Groups of "THIS GENERATION [That] WILL NOT PASS AWAY"
April 2014: Oubliette posts a chart on JWN parodying the Overlapping Generation (OG) nonsense
September 2015: Splane attempts to 'splain the OG nonsense using a chart suspiciously derivative of one previously posted here on JWN. (Click here for a review of that jw-tv episode).

Careful readers will notice the footnote in the above chart about conflicting dates for Fred Franz' baptism. This is a point in WT "theology," chronology and history that previously has not been discussed much, and curiously Splane also refers to this obscure point in his presentation.

Coincidence? Conspiracy theory?

Do the math!

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What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

jp1692

“Jehovah’s people are the thinkingest people on the planet!” - Anthony Morris III

Getting to Know You - ToMo III, part 11

Go to 2:54" for this quote.

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GDPR: Get your data from the UK Branch now, before 25-May-2018

by Fay Dehr in

get your data from the uk branch now, before gdpr kicks in on 25-may-2018.

use this free template letter, which has been tried and tested.

under uk law they can (and will) delay their reply if you miss out any of the important points in the template letter - for example they are allowed to ask for "costs" from you (£10 is an established fee in the data industry), or if you fail to prove your identity by means of passport or driver's license.

jp1692

This religion just keeps getting weirder by the day. Any illusions of them "reforming" and becoming a "kinder, gentler, more moderate religion" are just that, illusions.

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GDPR: help for PIMOs

by Fay Dehr in

we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

jp1692

Respectful_observer wrote:

The individual must have the "Right to be Forgotten" (i.e., they must be able to dictate that all their data be permanently erased.

Good luck with that!

Note this from the JW.org website regarding data collection and retention:

YOUR RIGHTS: The religious organization has an interest in permanently maintaining data regarding an individual’s status as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Deleting such information would unduly infringe on the organization’s religious beliefs and practices. - [Emphasis added]

Source: Global Policy Personal Data - Updated April 1, 2018

Isn’t it ironic—in an Orwellian sort of way—that the WTBTS’s stated policy that they can and probably will ignore written, legitimate requests to delete personal data is listed in a section of their policy entitled: “Your Rights”?

Let’s translate the doublespeak into plain English: when it comes to the WTBTS and “your rights,” you have none.

Let’s review: It’s a cult!

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GDPR: help for PIMOs

by Fay Dehr in

we urgently need to offer "resistance strategy" help to pimos who are likely to be harassed by elders seeking their consent for wtbt$ to leech their data.

what questions could pimos ask elders, that elders would be unable to answer?

(thus buying time, because elder would need to "check with branch").

jp1692

Just say no!

Publisher: "What? I don't get to have any 'privilieges'?"

Elder: "That's right."

Publisher: "Thank you, thank you, thank you!"

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Boundaries

by AllTimeJeff in

this post hopefully will get you thinking about therapy, along with good mental and emotional health if you are dealing with the traumatic choices associated with leaving jw's, or if you are considering leaving.

because it is a trauma.. imagine a married couple in their late 30's.

because they took last weeks watchtower seriously, they have decided to talk to an elder in their congregation because they have practiced oral sex on each other, and feel a need to confess and get "spiritual help.".

jp1692

The subject of having and respecting appropriate boundaries is a very important one. High-control, authoritarian cults such as JWs routinely disregard them, trespassing egregiously on our personal mental, emotional, spiritual and sometimes even physical spaces.

As many of us well know, families are often ruined as a result of this. It takes a lot of hard work to repair these boundaries once they have been broken. This work begins by first recognizing that our boundaries have been violated.

Here is one of my favorite threads on the topic:

Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency

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My JW niece is getting married ... typical JW drama

by wannabefree in

we received an invitation in the mail yesterday for my jw niece's wedding.. i am posting this just to add for any lurkers to see typical jw practices.. 1st - and perfectly understandable for anybody who is or was a jw.

i'm not invited.

:) hey, i'm really not complaining about that.