Posts by jp1692

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When you were an active JW, did you ever have dealings with a pyramid scheme?

by Tameria2001 in

i'm not sure why this memory popped up, and i was wondering if any others, when they were still active jw had dealings with a pyramid scheme involving other witnesses in the organization?

at the time it was 1993, and my husband and i were still newlyweds.

once in a while, we would attend a neighboring congregation because that was where he grew up, and some of his family was still attending there at the time.

jp1692

JWs and MLMs are an interesting sociological phenomenon.

You have the least educated group of people in the country (by religious affiliation) who are kept busy during all, or most, of their free time with “the ministry,” both of a which make it difficult for the majority of JWs to earn a decent living. So naturally they are ripe for this kind of scam because they need to earn more than they do, and they’re not educated enough to recognize the futility of any “get-rich-quick” schemes.

But it gets better. JWs are not supposed to “conduct business” at the Kingdom Hall and are discouraged from having relationships with “worldly people.” So who will be their customers?

JWs are easy targets for getting involved in questionable business dealings which have little chance to succeed.

It’s just a recipe for frustration!

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Awake No. 2 2019 - Way To Destroy Your Childrens Hopes And Dreams Watchtower!

by pale.emperor in

not that i spend much time on the cult's website, but i like to skim through their latest propaganda to make sure i'm up to date with their nuttiness.

(and when i say skim, i mean just that.

the wafer thin, dumbed down content can be read in like 2 mins flat).. i just had to share my thoughts on the above piece of trash.. no.

jp1692

Encourage your child to apologize quickly. Help your child to see where he is wrong and to acknowledge it.

Do they mean just like the Governing Body does whenever they make a mistake? Oh, they never, ever admit to being wrong about anything. Goddamned hypocrites!

Let’s review: It’s a cult!

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Ending Bible Study

by Maria Nieves in

i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

jp1692

Maria Nieves: I no longer believe the truth to be the truth.

jp1692: I no longer believe that Jehovah’s Witnesses are a positive, healthy—or even benign—religious organization.

There. I fixed it for you.

Lets review: It’s a cult!

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Ending Bible Study

by Maria Nieves in

i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

jp1692

There’s a good reason that you “fear the repercussions of ending the study.” That’s because Jehovah’s Witnesses are a high-control, authoritarian group. The slang term for this is: cult.

The fear you are feeling is a major red-flag you should not ignore. But realize this, you have become indoctrinated to be afraid to leave, but there is really nothing the JWs can do to you except shun you.

Do yourself a favor and just end the study, and quit going to the Kingdom Hall. You don’t owe anyone an explanation for your reasons. Take back the control over your life that you have gradually been relinquishing and re-establish appropriate personal boundaries.

Let’s review: It’s a cult!

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One Liners

by The Fall Guy in

my doctor says that i need to have an operation to fuse the bones in my neck.

he said that after it's done i'll never look back!.

alcohol was my father's answer to everything.

jp1692

A guy walks into a bar. Ouch!

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“Millions now living will never die”

by HappyBlessedFree in

so i’m just reading the part in ray franz book “crisis of conscience” about the 1925 prediction of “millions now living will never die”.. ofcourse all witnesses are very familiar with this campaign.

yet none of us ever had an issue with it, including myself.

since the booklet was published in 1920, we are one year away from 100 years from that time.

jp1692

“Millions now dying will never live!”

There, I fixed it for you.

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Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i do .

for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

jp1692

To criticize a government is NOT tha same as “condemning” a race or ethnic group. To conflate the two is a logical fallacy, one which is committed by an alarming number of people with disturbing regularity. It is these errors in thinking which perpetuate inter-generational hatred, violence and conflict.

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Giving fake address to elder

by Addison0998 in

so i got married a few weeks ago, living a great life now with my husband, he was definitely the perfect guy for me :) but anyways, we are going to work on slowly fading, going to meetings once a week or every two weeks, and then in a few months move to a hall where nobody knows our families and the elders hardly know each other, and fade out a lot more.

but an elder asked for our address, which we didn’t feel comfortable giving him, because we don’t want any unexpected visits to “shepard” us, when we miss a few meetings, because they already text us when we miss 2 meetings in a row, which we had just gotten back from our honeymoon 🙄 so we “accidentally” gave him the wrong apartment number.

so if they ever come pokin around they will be lost, and if they call or text us we will just have an excuse for not replying.

jp1692

Giordano: I think we tend to get somewhat too clever in trying to outwit the Elder's or CO.

Exactly. What’s wrong with just saying, “I’m sorry, but I don’t give out personal information to people I just met/don’t know”?

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Giving fake address to elder

by Addison0998 in

so i got married a few weeks ago, living a great life now with my husband, he was definitely the perfect guy for me :) but anyways, we are going to work on slowly fading, going to meetings once a week or every two weeks, and then in a few months move to a hall where nobody knows our families and the elders hardly know each other, and fade out a lot more.

but an elder asked for our address, which we didn’t feel comfortable giving him, because we don’t want any unexpected visits to “shepard” us, when we miss a few meetings, because they already text us when we miss 2 meetings in a row, which we had just gotten back from our honeymoon 🙄 so we “accidentally” gave him the wrong apartment number.

so if they ever come pokin around they will be lost, and if they call or text us we will just have an excuse for not replying.

jp1692

I get what you’re doing and why, but think it through to the end. Then just rip the band-aid off and be done with it.

You don’t have to lie and “accidentally” give a fake address. Just stop going. And when people ask for personal information you don’t want to divulge, simply tell them, “That’s personal, and you don’t need to know that,” or, “Is rather not.”

Reclaim your personal boundaries and live your life.

Lets review: It’s a cult!

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Michael Cohen... sleazebag or patriot?

by Queequeg in

so, what do you think?

.

fwiw, i say sleazebag....

jp1692

Sir82, Well, when you put it like that ... !