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  You May Now Embrace the Bride!

  by jp1692 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.

  no kissing.

  just a hug.

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  Blondie, quoting the WT: "This might offend or distract some ... [and] those who got a glimpse of such conduct might be stumbled."

  We all remember how often the Don't Be Stumbling Others dictum was trotted out by the WTBTS whenever they wanted to control or eliminate a behavior they didn't like. And as much as it seemed like a good idea, it never really worked out that way.

  Why not?

  In one of his books (sorry, but I don't have the reference handy) Ray Franz observed that the inevitable end result of applying this indiscriminately is that the people with the weakest consciences—those that are the most easily offended—end up being the ones that determine the culture of a congregation.

  So instead of having the more mature, balanced people setting the tone and standards of the group, it is set by the least mature and most unbalanced individuals.
  

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  You May Now Embrace the Bride!

  by jp1692 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.

  no kissing.

  just a hug.

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  sir82: "no kissing allowed in the Kingdom Hall! Think of the children!"

  That's ironically funny, but very likely true. I've been involved with more than a few "something-seriously-stuck-up-their-collective-patooties BOE" that seem to forget how children are made!

  Personally, I've only made two children, but I certainly have enjoyed practicing!
  

  
  
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  You May Now Embrace the Bride!

  by jp1692 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just yesterday, a pimi jw that i've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in pennsylvania, usa, the "brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "you may now embrace the bride.

  no kissing.

  just a hug.

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  Just yesterday, a PIMI JW that I've known for years told me that at the end of a wedding they recently attended in Pennsylvania, USA, the "Brother" that officiated the ceremony concluded by saying to the bride and groom, "You may now embrace the bride." And they did.

  No kissing. Just a hug.

  AWKWARD!
  

  I've been out of this cult for over a decade, so I don't know much about the latest in JW wedding ceremony protocols or practices. And in many ways I don't really care, but I am curious: Is this a new thing among JWs everywhere, or is it just a local aberration?

  Even the PIMI JW that told me about it thought it was weird. (Yes, they actually used the word "weird" to describe how they felt about this.)
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  Recently Disfellowshipped

  by PersonOfGlitter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi i’m getting disfellowshipped on thursday and was wondering what advice those that have left have for me.

  i’m not sure if i still believe or not.

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  Welcome to the Forum, PoG!

  You've a rough road ahead of you, that's for sure.

  Not everyone has the same experience, but it isn't easy to be kicked out of an organization that you've invested in emotionally, with your time, maybe your family and possibly even financially.

  That being said, you're life will be so much better now that you're out of this cult. And yes: It is a cult.

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  Do You Think People Should Be Scorned For Wearing A Red MAGA Hat?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  do you support free choice to wear a political hat or article of clothing?

  if someone wants to put a bumper sticker on their car in support of a political candidate or party, should they be able to do it without fear of being maligned or abused?

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  Freedom of speech and freedom of choice do not somehow magically protect people from the consequences of their actions.

  The people that don't agree have just as much right to voice their disagreement or disapproval as those that make a public statement.

  These rights go both ways. That's the beauty of it. Embrace it.
  
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  highlights from Circuit Overseer Guidelines

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just finished looking through the circuit overseer manual, so here are some highlights.

  first up, regarding circuit assemblies:.

  if a brother is so extremely overweight that others would be distracted if he had a part on the program, good judgment would need to be used in deciding whether to give him an assignment.

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  Brothers recommended to serve as substitute circuit overseers must not have viewed pornography within the last two years.

  Why two years? And wouldn't it matter what kind of pornography and how frequently he viewed it?
  

  So many arbitrary rules.
  
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  Powerful Sayings That Means A Lot For You Personally

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just was thinking how some powerful quotes, remarks, sayings hit the mark with me and how much it enriched/ enhamced/influences my life.

  love beyond color.

  reality is that which when you no longer believe in it , does not go away.. “the truth is a battle of perceptions.

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  It ain’t love if it’s conditional!
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  Do You Believe The News Media Is Trustworthy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.

  he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.

  i’ve known him for many years.

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  1. Learn critical thinking skills
  2. Actively seek out and compare differing points of view

  I recommend a news service such as The Flip Side which every day “scours 30+ publications to find the most thoughtful and informed perspectives on major issues” from across the political spectrum.

  
  
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  JW Broadcast For August

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay i'll admit that what i'm about to ask is a little silly.

  this is the kind of stuff that crosses over into tinfoil hat territory, but you can't help but notice it.. did anyone else see gary breaux in this month's broadcast doing that weird "hand diamond" thing over his bible?

  he was also wearing a pinky ring.

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  Here’s an older thread that takes a slightly humorous and very irreverent take on the subject:

  • How to Wear a Pinkie Ring, by Stephen Lett, Governing Body Member
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  Blew it this morning with 4 JWs

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i decided to go hunting for jws this morning.

  walked to the end of my driveway and who should be approaching...but 2 ladies, one old (dianne) and one younger both with watchtower mags in hand.

  dianne shared how the world was under the control of satan etc.

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  V7: It sounds like your son is a good kid.

  That being said, debating JWs is like trying to teach a pig how to ice skate. It makes you look foolish and annoys the pig.