Posts by jp1692

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Disfellowshipped JW's Still Have "Normal Family Relations"

by Sea Breeze in

"when someone is disfellowshipped from the religion, normal family relations continue, with the exception of spiritual fellowship.”a watchtower lawyer clears up this common misunderstanding:.

https://jwvictims.org/2017/11/19/watchtower-lawyer-lies-outright-in-court-about-disfellowshipping-and-shunning/ .

jp1692

"When someone is disfellowshipped from the religion, normal family relations continue, with the exception of spiritual fellowship.” - A Watchtower Lawyer

That's such bullshit!

I know countless people that aren't even disfellowshipped that are shunned by their family merely because they no longer go to the Kingdom Hall to attend meetings.

The leadership of this cult are all morally corrupt liars. They have no shame.

If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, then your beliefs are not worth defending!

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Do You Believe In Polls?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when you hear that the polls say.... do you really believe it??.

i think polls can be and often are skewered.

i don’t trust them..

jp1692

DOC, I’m aware. So much for democracy!

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Do You Believe In Polls?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when you hear that the polls say.... do you really believe it??.

i think polls can be and often are skewered.

i don’t trust them..

jp1692

I like this one from the ordinarily, ultra-pro-Trump Fox News:

Fox News Poll: More than Half of Registered Voters polled say Senate should remove Trump - (January 19-22, 2020)

NOTE: This poll was Conducted January 19-22, 2020 under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company (R), this Fox News Poll includes interviews with 1,005 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide who spoke with live interviewers on both landlines and cellphones. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points for all registered voters.

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Would You Ever Go Back To The Witnesses??

by minimus in

jw
friends

every once in a while you hear people say they actually “miss” their old witness friends and or family.

some would have even stayed in the organization if they became a bit more liberal and open minded.

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Not just "No," but "Hell no!"

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Circus Assembly Jaw Dropper

by Slidin Fast in

the co got on his hind legs for the public talk and repeated twice "tolerance promotes division".

then backed it up by saying that if one group march for some right, another group will march for the opposite.. so jws are intolerant and proud of it.

f@@@k me sideways.. may explain that the baptism tally was 0..

jp1692

Cofty: As usual they confuse unity with uniformity.

I've come to believe the "confusion," or more appropriately conflation, is deliberate and intentional—at least from the top down.

A typical example is the constant repetition of the phrase: "Jehovah and his organization" Constantly putting these two separate ideas together causes a linked association in the minds of the believers. Thus, criticizing or disagreeing with "the organization" becomes tantamount or equivalent to criticizing or disagreeing with God.

Let's review: It's a cult!

Conflation: the merging of two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc. into one.

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Notes From an Elders Meeting

by WinstonSmith in

so in this past week i came across a stash of my old elder stuff.

i've scanned a bunch of notes and agendas, and public talk outlines.. check out an agenda and my notes from the meeting here: https://imgur.com/gallery/qqmyczn.

i’ve put an explanatory note on each image in imgur.

jp1692

SBF: This is very interesting. I don’t recall seeing elders’ agendas or notes before. This is quite informative.

I wonder if I have any of my notes. I was an elder for 20 years. Most are mundane, but some might be "informative." I'll take a look.

FYI: Elders are not required to do anything in particular with their notes from regular elders' meetings, but they are not allowed to keep their notes from Judicial Meetings, which are required to be put in the sealed envelope with all documentation, (at least that's how it was from the late '80s until 2009).

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Notes From an Elders Meeting

by WinstonSmith in

so in this past week i came across a stash of my old elder stuff.

i've scanned a bunch of notes and agendas, and public talk outlines.. check out an agenda and my notes from the meeting here: https://imgur.com/gallery/qqmyczn.

i’ve put an explanatory note on each image in imgur.

jp1692

Welcome back!

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

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Well look who’s back!

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Circus Assembly Jaw Dropper

by Slidin Fast in

the co got on his hind legs for the public talk and repeated twice "tolerance promotes division".

then backed it up by saying that if one group march for some right, another group will march for the opposite.. so jws are intolerant and proud of it.

f@@@k me sideways.. may explain that the baptism tally was 0..

jp1692

Okay, let’s review: It’s a cult!

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Which songs give you goosebumps?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?

', or similar).. but, i'd just like to start a thread about certain songs giving me goosebumps.

y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.

jp1692

St. Matthew's Passion by J.S. Bach, particularly the Part II.