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  In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. beliefs

  i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.

  he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).

  he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.

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  Flip-flop.

  But never mind. To be a faithful JW you must believe whatever the WT leaders teach now, as of this present moment, which ultimately is why I am no longer a JW ... faithful or otherwise.

  "New light" is just old light recycled.
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  Just overheard this after meeting . . .

  by neat blue dog in

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  the annual meeting just finished, and here's a conversation i overheard from two gushing jws:.

  sister:.

  they said we're so close!.

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  Go back to Charles Taze Russell in 1879.
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  Simplified study watchtower

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  2. beliefs

  there seems to be some confusion over what is happening with the study edition of the watchtower - i notice it isn't mentioned in the letter to be read out.

  if, as seems likely, it is going to be dumbed down even further then i think this could be the first step to shortening the watchtower study (to 30 mins?

  ) - it is the only meeting not to have been reduced in recent years.

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  So they want to further "simplify" their already ridiculously simple publications!

  WT publications such as the The NEW "Bible Teach" book are already at a 5th grade level. They have been deliberately aiming at 11 year old children--or at least people with that reading level. This is a full three grade levels below the average reading ability of the general public and now they want to go even lower. Unbelievable!

  The WTBTS is deliberately targeting people with limited reading ability and/or limited intelligence. I guess they now know who will fall for their incoherent, nonsense religion.

  It's been suggested that maybe the WT leadership thinks that people aren't smart enough to understand "the truth." The problem is not that their beliefs or doctrines are hard to understand, it's that they don't make sense!
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by obarac in

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  2. beliefs

  on saturday, october 7.. any chance to get user name and password for stream?.

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  Thanks WiFi!
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  2017 Annual Meeting

  by obarac in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on saturday, october 7.. any chance to get user name and password for stream?.

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  • Spiritual Paradise is a state of mind.

  Yeah. It's called a delusional state of mind !
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  Writing a book on Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses - suggestions welcome

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  so i finally decided to start writing a book on exiting jehovah's witnesses.

  i've been meaning to do this for a very long time.

  there are so many books out there and i don't want to repeat what everyone else has written.. although the book will include some basic history of jehovah's witnesses and the usual doctrinal flaws, it's core audience are those who are thinking about leaving, in the process of leaving or have already left.. the book will contain case studies of people who've left and made a success of their life.

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  #2 - That was me for sevenish years. Tried to get out with my family, but eventually just left by myself. The pressure of pretending to believe things you don't and to be someone you're not is incredible.
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  "Circumcision is a sign to set you apart from the people of the nations"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. bible

  we know that the hebrew scriptures, or old testament states that the practice of circumcision (of males) was supposed to be yet another sign that set the jews apart from the "people of the nations".

  but apart from so many odd things, how dumb is this?.

  i mean, how did someone know if a male was circumcised or not??

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  Wake Me: maybe JW brothers can start identifying themselves as a part of God's nation by snipping the ends off their ties.

  My ties remain uncut ... that is, when I wear them, which frankly isn't all that often any more.
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  "Circumcision is a sign to set you apart from the people of the nations"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we know that the hebrew scriptures, or old testament states that the practice of circumcision (of males) was supposed to be yet another sign that set the jews apart from the "people of the nations".

  but apart from so many odd things, how dumb is this?.

  i mean, how did someone know if a male was circumcised or not??

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  So god supposedly said, "I want you to prove your love for and devotion to me by cutting off the end of your dick. And just to be sure you're serious, cut off the end of your kids' dicks too!"

  That's some seriously fucked up shit.

  Religions are highly articulated expressions of mental illness.
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  Interesting conversation with JW friend

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was withh a friend of mine who is a jw still and for whatever reason we started talking the bible.

  i asked him about lazarus and how is that when he died he paid the price of sin, but then jesus resurrected him.

  and i asked him "where is lazarus today?

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  Lazarus sinned again ...

  Seriously, it's all nonsense.

  Jesus didn't resurrect anyone. That's a fairy tale.
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  Meetings are boring

  by Akid48 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  meetings are boring for young kids and old but i'm going to focus on young kids 5 or 8.. i think is unfair that young kids get punished for falling asleep or zoning out.. as meetings are not as boring but i have to go to school the next day and staying up till 10pm isn't the best i can't get out of going.. but think of the young kids that dont even understand most of the teachings.. i know most on the site are adults but i heard of adults falling asleep..

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  Great points Magnum. You sound like a kindred spirit.

  Many times I did additional research to add depth and breadth to my knowledge and understanding. It only took a time or two of trying to share it in the congregation before I learned the elders weren't interested and that I should stop looking at "apostate" material, as if scholarly articles were all written by apostates. (What paranoid, ignorant fools).

  But either way, and in no uncertain terms, it was clear that I better keep my findings and my opinions to myself.

  That was the beginning of the end for me. I'm a life-long learner and love learning about new and interesting things. So I left those small minded idiots behind and have had a great time pursuing my academic interests and achieving my educational goals.