at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
Anyone genuinely and seriously interested in this topic should read this brief summary and statement from the 2012 Francis Crick Memorial Conference On Consciousness:
You may not agree with their conclusions, but at least you’ll get an idea of what it looks like when real scientists use real scientific methods to address these types of questions.
Enjoy ... or not!
on other boards and new sites they are talking about contact with aliens in the next 20 years.
i think that would be reckless and dangerous.
how could you tell if it was a genuine space alien and not a demon?
You mistitled this thread. It should be THE PSEUDOSCIENCE CORNER.
Tin foil hats required, coat and ties optional.
A theory with no evidence is just a theory
No. A “theory” with no evidence is not even a hypothesis, it’s just speculation.
from facebook:just saw my jw mother after not seeing her for more than 2 years.
when i do see her, it is brief, she never asks about my life, doesn't ask about my 4 children her grandchildren, doesn't ask about my grandchildren...her great grandchildren, she doesn't ask about my other 2 brothers that she is also alienated from, she doesn't ask about my brothers family.
she doesn't talk about the jw/org either.
BG: I hate to say it, but there isn’t actually nothing new in what your mom said. This has all been said and done many times before by this, and other, doomsday cults.
I like what Crazyguy wrote, tell her “that she’s more then welcome to come over to your place and you’ll feed her and take her in especially after her three days of food run out.”.
i heard many times when i was a witness how much "learning the truth" helped people.
many have been said to have become much better people.
addictions were given up.
i heard many times when i was a witness how much "learning the truth" helped people.
many have been said to have become much better people.
addictions were given up.
No. It made me a much more uptight and judgmental person. I'm so much nicer and easier to get along with since I left this cult!
YMMV
november 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: making the best use of our kingdom halls.
It'll be interesting to watch the video to actually see firsthand "the 'reasons' behind recent changes affecting
congregations throughout the U.S. branch territory."
Thanks WiFi. You keep us more up-to-date than when I was an elder! ... LOL
a really moving testimony.
maybe some one can post it here, "monica singleton..awakening from the jehovah's witness nightmare".
posted nov. 11,2017 12:41 min........
YouTube video:
we are off to the convention this weekend!
the program will be full of informative and faith-strengthening information.
here is the program:.
I don't believe it!
hi all, just wondering if anyone is in the same boat.
wifey and i dropped off the face of the jw planet almost a decade ago and still get 3 or 4 visits a year mostly when we are not dressed or expecting visitors.
it's really annoying because we are both wondering why they don't get the hint already.. we don't want to move because we really enjoy where we live and both have careers that keep us in the area.. i've asked politely that they stop calling but like the "godfather" they keep "pulling me in.".
There’s always the nuclear option. Just tell them to get off your fucking porch as you slowly walk towards them in an implicitly menacing fashion. (But don’t say anything explicitly threatening).
Then watch them shit their pants and run away with their tails between their wobbly legs.
Again, do NOT lose control or say anything explicitly threatening. Three times people lost their shit on me when I was a JW and I turned around as I was leaving and shut them down. I even called the police on one of them. They blew it with the explicit threat. (Probably they’d been fucked over by this cult, who knows. They were so angry they couldn’t even talk.)
But if anyone would have down what I advised above even I would have left post haste.
Intimidate but never threaten. Never.
hi all, just wondering if anyone is in the same boat.
wifey and i dropped off the face of the jw planet almost a decade ago and still get 3 or 4 visits a year mostly when we are not dressed or expecting visitors.
it's really annoying because we are both wondering why they don't get the hint already.. we don't want to move because we really enjoy where we live and both have careers that keep us in the area.. i've asked politely that they stop calling but like the "godfather" they keep "pulling me in.".
It’s odd, I was an elder for over two decades and quit going and NO ONE EVER COMES BY.
I’m technically still “in good standing” and have lived in the same place the last seven years.
Why do they bug you and leave me alone? Who knows!
But a likely reason is this: the last time an elder contacted me he said “the brothers” wanted to setup a “shepherding” call on me since I stopped attending.
I said, “No thanks, but I do have a favor to ask you. Would you and the brothers set up a meeting to help me and [a family member that started shunning me when I quit attending the meetings] reconcile?”
He said he’d have to ask “the brothers” and would get back to me. That was several years ago.
I’m still waiting ...
