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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

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  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  SBF: I've not used my PC since circa 2012

  And I’ve only used a Mac since 2007

  WTF is that supposed to mean?
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  Asimov was the man, but he died 25 years ago. We’ve learned a thing or two about biology, chemistry and physics since then.
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  SBF: I can't get that site to work on my iPad

  That's too bad. It's really pretty incredible.
  

  It does require a Flash plugin.

  Hopefully you can find a way to access it.
  
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  Name a song title..........

  by punkofnice in

  1. social
  2. humour

  replace one word in a song title with the word 'elder/s'.. eg.

  the elders are back in town' (boys).

  smoke on the elder (water).

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  Elders Don't Lose that Number (Rikki) - Steely Dan

  Here Comes the Elder (Sun) - The Beatles

  The Continuing Story of Elder Bill (Bungalow) - The Beatles

  Elder I'm Gonna Leave You (Babe) - Led Zeppelin

  Houses of the Elders (Holy) - Led Zeppelin

  How Many More Elders (Times) - Led Zeppelin

  Trampled Under Elders (Foot) - Led Zeppelin

  Elders for Hire (Guns) - AC/DC

  Cold Hearted Elder (Man) - AC/DC
  
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  SBF: Because we view reality from the inside, and from low down, like and ant, it can be difficult to have perspective.

  Here's a very cool interactive that will help you gain some perspective, from the smallest things we can speculate about to the largest structures we can observe. Enjoy!
  

  • The Scale of the Universe - What is exactly is our place in the grand scheme of things? How and where do we fit it? This very cool visual interactive helps you see and understand just how big--and also how very small--we really are. (Click here for an older version of the same thing).
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  My Cognitive Dissonance is Eating Me Alive (Intro Post)

  by pometerre21 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking here for a couple of weeks now.

  i'm starting to "awaken" and it is all that has been occupying my mind.

  i've always, always had doubts, some of which i expressed to family members who always had the same replies:.

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  Welcome!

  Please continue to voice you’re thoughts here. It’s a healthy way to reduce the dissonance.
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  SBF: Why are we uniquely equipped to perceive the world as it really is?

  I actually love this particular question, but you must realize it’s somewhat circular and entirely self-referential in its underlying assumption that we actually do “perceive the world as it really is.”

  When did this happen? The ancients that perceived the world as flat or the center of the universe clearly did not “perceive the world as it really is.”

  The 18th century chemists that subscribed to the theory of phlogiston didn’t “perceive the world as it really is.”

  So what makes you think we now have it all right? When did we start to “perceive the world as it really is”?

  When did this happen?

  In fact, if you want to talk about the basic equipment with which we are actually “equipped,” our innate, basic physical senses don’t perceive a great deal of how things actually are. Our eyes, for example, only perceive a very small portion of the EM band, our ears only hear a very small range of the frequencies which are audible to other animals, our sense of touch can only handle a very limited range of hot or cold without being irreparably damaged and so on.

  It’s only by using our intelligence that humans have been able to devise mechanical devices to extend our basic, stock sensory input devices enabling us to perceive so many things which formerly were unknown and unknowable to us in our native state.
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  "entitled" talks

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one thing that bugs the heck out of me is the exclusive use of entitled when offering the name of any talk or article.

  can;t it ever be "on the subject of", named, titled, called, about or anything else.. i guess technically it is a correct usage, but entitled always (to me) means gives the idea of being in a special privelege, having a right to something or such..

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  It’s a First World 🌎 problem.

  All kidding aside, the Watchtower publications have always had this rather stuffy, stilted, overly-formal style of writing that—to my ear at least—sounds about a generation behind the average age of their congregants. (And no, I don’t mean an overlapping generation).

  It’s been my suspicion that they think it makes them sound smart and educated; however, if they really were educated they would know it doesn’t.

  TIP: If you’re really interested in upping your game in the writing department, pick up a copy of Steven Pinker’s book, The Sense of Style. You’ll be glad you did.

  jp
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  Where is the line drawn?

  At octpopus. (See my previous posts in this thread if you want/need clarification).
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  backhanded compliment to Sunday speaker

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a couple years ago we had a speaker, better than average, give the talk.

  since i was still pretty much a believer, i commented to him how i enjoyed the talk, and how it was "entertaining".

  it was, but he got mad as it was one of the beat the fear of god (governing body) into you talks.

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  Brother Speaker: So how did you enjoy the talk?

  jo1692: Mostly by sleeping through it. 😉

  BS somewhat taken aback: Funny!

  jp: Seriously though, there were some parts I enjoyed more than others.

  BS feeling more confident: Oh yeah, what was your favorite part?

  jp: The part when you quit talking! 😝