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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

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  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  You're funny Sparky!

  The phlogistion theory is of course now completely discredited, mostly due to the work of Antoine Lavosier, the father of modern chemistry, in the late 1700s.

  It's a very interesting example of how science works. Even as more and more evidence was gathered to disprove the phlogiston theory, many people stubbornly continued to hang on to it rather than admit they had a wrong belief (sound familiar?).

  Here is a brief excerpt from a WP article on the subject:

  Phlogiston Theory - Challenge and demise: Phlogiston remained the dominant theory until the 1780s when Antoine-Laurent Lavoisier showed that combustion requires a gas that has mass (oxygen) and could be measured by means of weighing closed vessels. ...

  Experienced chemists who supported Stahl's phlogiston theory attempted to respond to the challenges suggested by Lavoisier and the newer chemists. In doing so, phlogiston theory became more complicated and assumed too much, contributing to the overall demise of the theory. Many people tried to remodel their theories on phlogiston in order to have the theory work with what Lavoisier was doing in his experiments. Pierre Macquer reworded his theory many times, and even though he is said to have thought the theory of phlogiston was doomed, he stood by phlogiston and tried to make the theory work. [Emphasis added]
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  jp1692

  Ruby, because you decided to post a public reply to a private message, I will respond to your post in kind.

  I do NOT object to your posting. I object to your personal comments directed to/at me.

  Agree or disagree with a view. I don't care. Attacking beliefs or ideas you feel are incorrect is fine, but it is both poor form and against forum guidelines to engage in personal attacks.

  As I have said to you privately on repeated occasions, and because you posted the above message on this thread, I will say to you again here:
  

  "I have repeatedly tried to engage you in meaningful dialogue and discussion ... you repeatedly ... respond with condescending, patronizing language. Please stop. Just ignore my posts."

  Please, in the future, do not direct any more posts to me on this or any other thread. Just don't.
  
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  Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  at one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.

  this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.

  what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).

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  So then—if we are in agreement that there is no observable evidence that inanimate objects are aware and can receive, process and respond to outside stimulus, data or information—why entertain the notion?
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  Those of you who can explain mathematical concepts, please reply.

  by compound complex in

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  i know who you are; you posted, rather eloquently, on venus' thread regarding a teacher making a mistake in mathematics.. my brain is not wired to explain concepts that come to you naturally.

  certainly, it is a combination of both your innate ability as well as training in a field in which you excel.

  my question centers on those of us who did well in mathematics but cannot explain what we are doing.

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  CoCo, have you heard? There are three kinds of people in the world: those that are good at math and those that aren't!
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  Making real friends

  by KindEyes in

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  hiya, firstly i’m new to this website, so sorry if this topic has been covered before.

  i have been out of “the truth” for almost one year.

  i live with my non-witness mother, have an amazing boyfriend, work and am in college.

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  The good news is that from here on out you'll be making relationships with people that care about you for WHO YOU ARE and not WHAT YOU (pretend to) BELIEVE!
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  Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

  by Marie33 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

  now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

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  KN: I'd like to know what you researched and how involved you were, if you don't mind sharing.

  Well, I haven't kept a log of all of my research into this subject, and there are two different areas of research here: the supernatural and the psychology of delusion beliefs.

  But ...
  

  In regard to the first subject, there was 30+ years of reading WTBTS propaganda which (among other things) tried to prove the supernatural. Those publications were wholly unsuccessful in achieving their goal; indeed, they only convinced me that God, demons and the angels likely do not exist.

  Parallel to that, I read other outside sources which took a scientific approach to debunking the paranormal. Some included Michael Shermer's work through The Skeptics Society as well as the work of James Randi. Frankly, it all gets silly very quickly.

  My research into the psychology of delusion beliefs and cult recovery has been much more rigorous and scientific. Click HERE for a short list of articles and other resources which I have consulted on this and closely related subjects.
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  Higher Education

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

  clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

  their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

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  Brian J: The escape route is drawn, family station wagon loaded, but car is only going 5 mph right now so as not to loose my family. Snails pace i know but they are worth it.

  Good plan.

  Best wishes mate!
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  Which Things Did Your Overzealous Parents Ban?

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  we all know the gb like to impose rules upon the rules... but did anyone else out there have parents that implemented rules upon those rules?

  mine did.

  my mum tended to copy whatever the elders wives were doing and took it to the extreme.

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  PE: I've still never seen Star Wars.

  Dude, it's time!

  Just make sure you watch them in the order they were made/released.
  
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  Should I stay or should I go?

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
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  hello everyone, i haven't posted anything on here for a while and today i just really felt like i needed to get my thoughts together.

  (if you don't know me please read some of my previous posts).

  so pretty much not much has changed in my life, i'm still living with my parents and going to all the meetings and service.

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  jp1692

  Any prison break takes careful, thoughtful planning and a well-timed execution, even one where the only “bars and walls” are purely psychological.
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  Higher Education

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

  clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

  their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

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  For our 2 15 min breaks, there was coffee and bananas sitting in between 2 contribution boxes.

  Well that’s subtle!