Q: What's destroying Watchtower!
A: Self inflicted wounds.
for me, beyond any shadow of a doubt, it's the extreme shunning policy.. at a recent sunday meeting, i listened to a complete brainwashed sister saying how important it was that we stick to the shunning policy even if it is a close relative.. i just thought.
wtf.
there is a big difference between the brainwashed and the awoken class!.
A: Self inflicted wounds.
for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.
Morpheus,
When I became a JW in the '80s Herbert W. Armstrong was publishing "The Plain Truth."
His mags were so similar to the WT and Awake! that both groups thought they were plagiarizing each other.
for the december monthly broadcast instead of jws from around the world waving to you and items of how to shun people we will have to make do with repeats of of old gilead videos that have been on the jw website for a good while.
SBF: Worldwise Church of God
Methinks you meant the Worldwide Church of God (now known as Grace Communion International).
greeting everyone!
it is good to be back on here, i used to be on here years ago (prob.
8ish) under the moniker mystruggle.
IronSnake: One of the topics of interest is the influence of religion in the field of academic education, specially in K-12 in my country.
I also work in education here in the US.
Where are you?
jp
greeting everyone!
it is good to be back on here, i used to be on here years ago (prob.
8ish) under the moniker mystruggle.
Also, you might enjoy In Gods We Trust by Scott Atran. Atran is a French-American cultural anthropologist who is a
Director of Research in Anthropology at the Centre National de la
Recherche Scientifique in Paris.
His book is an ambitious undertaking and a fairly challenging read, but it’s the most thorough scholarly and interdisciplinary examination of the question of which I am aware.
greeting everyone!
it is good to be back on here, i used to be on here years ago (prob.
8ish) under the moniker mystruggle.
Aaron,
While we're on the subject, and since we have similar interests, I'd like to suggest you take a look at a couple of threads I started recently:
I'd appreciate your thoughts on these two subjects.
jp
greeting everyone!
it is good to be back on here, i used to be on here years ago (prob.
8ish) under the moniker mystruggle.
Hi Aaron, welcome back!
People like Steve Hassan, Robert Jay Lifton, Margaret Singer, Louis Jolyon West, and Michael Langone, have contributed invaluable work. Unfortunately, most of their work is unconsidered or discounted as extremist in academia.
I am sure that the majority of academics aren't concerned about cults in particular or even religion in general. They are concerned about their own particular field of study and research. That's to be expected.
What is your basis for saying that "most of their work is unconsidered or discounted as
extremist in academia"?
I know Michael Langone personally. He and many of his colleagues working in the field of cultic studies and other high-control, destructive groups are held in high regard by many academics.
jp
so yesterday was the midweek meeting - the first of the month for december so instead of locals doing the little talk skits we get the on screen shadow puppets.. after each one the ms taking the item asks the congregation for "positive" comments.. part way through i get a text from a pimo brother enduring the show which reads thus (and i quote word for word ...).
"it's like listening to a bunch of people from a mental institution.
".
Screen shadow puppets
Reminds me of Plato's allegory of the cave:
we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
Love always wins.
How I wish that were true. Unfortunately it isn't.
i've never been completely shunned because i've never been baptized.
my father side has always talked to me and included me in family events.
but my mom's side is in denial of shunning me.
Jayk, unfortunately when our family members are in a cult they often treat those of us that aren’t in their cult like shit.
Sorry you’re having to deal with this. Pretty much everyone else on this forum has experienced similar treatment by our families.
I’m glad your dad’s side makes you feel included.
Honestly, and I’m not trying to be a jerk here, but why would you want to hang out with people that don’t treat you well?