jp1692

Joined

• started 45 topics
• posted 2,020 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by jp1692

• 
  14

  New light

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  june at article now it's ok to say a greeting?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  It would be nice to interpret that as a softening of their shunning practice, but there's really nothing in this innocuous little paragraph from a puff-piece article to suggest otherwise. In fact, disfellowshipped peopled and shunning aren't even mentioned anywhere in the entire magazine issue.

  BTW, it's helpful if you are referencing a source to give adequate information so others can find it. In this case: “The Power of Greeting.” (June, 2018). The Watchtower. Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.

  The quote itself should be followed with the page number, which in this case is page 30.
  
• 
  2

  San Diego sex abuse cases against Jehovah's Witness organization settled

  by jp1692 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this just in as reported in the san diego union-tribune: .

  san diego sex abuse cases against jehovah's witness organization settled - kristina davis, march 6th, 2018.

  1. 
  2. 
• 

  jp1692

  This just in as reported in the San Diego Union-Tribune:

  • San Diego sex abuse cases against Jehovah's Witness organization settled - Kristina Davis, March 6th, 2018
    
    
    
• 
  32

  How many are PIMO ??

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know we cannot answer this, how many are physically in, mentally out (pimo), but i heard an amazing piece of news the other day.. an ex-p.o and ex-elder, a long time regular pioneer, and when i knew him a stalwart believer, went for a drink with another jw who has actually left, but is not df or anything.. in the course of conversation he came out with this bombshell "well, i am actually an atheist now, i just go along to keep my wife happy".. i also heard of a number of youngsters that i know personally who are simply living their life as they want, whilst making sure they don't get df'd for family and social reasons.. if as it seems the pimo's are a huge number, could there be a huge " awakening" where they all realize they are in a huge group, and they all say " eff it, lets call it a day on all the jw s**t ".

  ?.

  wishful thinking, but.....just possible ?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  
• 
  32

  How many are PIMO ??

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know we cannot answer this, how many are physically in, mentally out (pimo), but i heard an amazing piece of news the other day.. an ex-p.o and ex-elder, a long time regular pioneer, and when i knew him a stalwart believer, went for a drink with another jw who has actually left, but is not df or anything.. in the course of conversation he came out with this bombshell "well, i am actually an atheist now, i just go along to keep my wife happy".. i also heard of a number of youngsters that i know personally who are simply living their life as they want, whilst making sure they don't get df'd for family and social reasons.. if as it seems the pimo's are a huge number, could there be a huge " awakening" where they all realize they are in a huge group, and they all say " eff it, lets call it a day on all the jw s**t ".

  ?.

  wishful thinking, but.....just possible ?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  Wake Me, thanks for sharing that Pinker quote. He's one of my favorite authors. I've read several of his books and watched several interviews with him and many of his lectures, but I wasn't familiar with this particular quote!
• 
  58

  March 2018 Broadcast - When quotes become rumors

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this months broadcast is presented by losche and he discusses the need for trust in the fds.

  the following is transcribed from the 12.30 mark.. satan also has the scheme to spread rumors about our brothers including the faithful slave.

  the method of spreading rumors is not new.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  I have a "reasonable degree" of trust in the WT leadership.

  After many years of consideration, I have found that the only reasonable thing to do in connection with the WT leadership is to NOT TRUST THEM AT ALL!

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
• 
  11

  "How to Reclaim Your Life..."

  by Alexandra James in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, bon jour, aloha ... first time post here so feel free to move it or help me out in any way!

  this seems to be the week for book releases, as i'm happy to announce my own new book, "how to reclaim your life when it's been stolen from you," is now on amazon:.

  https://www.amazon.com/dp/1985830345/.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  Welcome AJ, congrats on your book!

  I personally really appreciate the focus on healing and moving forward with your life.

  jp
• 
  25

  The strange case of Gerrit Losch

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one of the recent molest cases had a signed declaration of gerrit losch, stating he has no relation with watchtower and that he has no control over watchtower and he does not answer to watchtower.. this month he is hosting the watchtower broadcasting show, on a watchtower media chanel, with a watchtower president starring as co-host, with statements, media and music that have intellectual ownership and copyright by watchtower.. gerrit is asking on broadcasting for respect for “the slave”, just like jehova and jesus respect “the slave” and will even reward them.. are the writers of the statement too stupid to see the correlation between teaching and practicing?.

  these man are proven liars.. how can hold this firewall stand?

  it’s so thin.. a judge can see this mismach isn’t it??.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  Here's the quote from a signed Declaration by Governing Body member, Gerrit Lösch, dated February 4, 2014 and filed in the Superior Court of the State of California, County of San Diego:

  ‘I do not answer to Watchtower. […] Watchtower does not have, and has never had, any authority over me.’

  And here, for your viewing pleasure, is a link to a copy of that Declaration:

  • Declaration of Gerrit Lösch

  It's important to remember that Lösch had been a member of the Governing Body for almost twenty years when he signed this Declaration.

  
  
• 
  34

  Is My Wife Awakening?

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every now and then, my wife will talk about how things are not making sense within the org.

  i usually just dismiss it as her playing mind games with me.

  for example, she would ask why there are so many branches being closed or why so many congregations are being merged.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  
  
• 
  52

  Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.

  a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.

  apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  Wild Thing: My mom and the other elder wives made us get out our songbooks and sing "Kingdom Melodies" to drown them out so we couldn't hear what they were saying. It was crazy!

  ♫ "Once with confusion our sad hearts were filled ... " ♫
• 
  52

  Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.

  a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.

  apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  jp1692

  Freddo found it!

  This just shows what small-minded idiots many JWs can be. They can't even follow their own stupid rules.

  Let's review: It's a cult!