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  "You owe Jehovah humility and HONESTY" - an email from a JW

  by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey forum goers.

  i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.

  bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.

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  LHG: self-righteous JWs

  I had to laugh because it's so redundant!
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  "You owe Jehovah humility and HONESTY" - an email from a JW

  by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey forum goers.

  i'd like your opinions on constructing an email reply to this shocker below.

  bit of background about the sender: she is a middle-aged, cheery uberdub whose siblings left when a schism occured in her congregation in canada way back when.

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  Frankly, you're probably better off just ignoring her. As the saying goes, "You can't argue with a sick mind!"

  That being said, you might consider a carefully crafted response to Sister Blind Faith's absurd, but common JW assertion: "Jehovah ... doesn't favour the intellectual ones who are proud and showy with their academic knowledge"

  One play might be something along the lines of: "Why would Jehovah give us intelligence and then not want us to use it? Does that make any sense to you, any sense at all?"

  
  

  You're better off not engaging. It's not about doctrine or any alleged "truth" after all. It's just about control and blind obedience.

  
  

  Let's review: It's cult!
  
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  I want to be all my dog believes me to be ...

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, pet owners and lovers:.

  while i have no pets of my own, i do care for dogs and cats and have cared for bunnies and guinea pigs in the past.

  i'm working on an essay with an 11-year-old student, and the subject is symbiotic relationships and how humans learn from their close interaction with animals.. here is a portion of the reference material under study:.

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  Beautiful!

  Before I even read the excerpt I was thinking: unconditional love!

  Dogs and other pets give it so freely. So many humans have lost this seemingly natural trait. Cults sure know how to indoctrinate it out many.
  
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  My impressions of the cart witnessing

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have watched tons of youtube videos of our exjdub friends approaching and talking to the jdub manikins at their carts as they give a great witness to the world by sipping their hot lattes, updating their social media, chit chatting to each other, and the most important thing of getting their time in, counting their hours.. when the jw's see someone approach with a camera they do several things, they will turn their backs on the person, or look at the person with a frown and act like the person isn't even there.

  the witlesses refuse to answer simple, clear, and precise questions.

  when i was an elder i loved to get into discussions and debates with trinitarians, priest, clergymen and those who were born again.

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  Drearyweather: From what I see in the photo, the old guy is putting away a bottle of water back on the cart holder after a sip. Could have been my old mom doing the same. I don't think he should be called pathetic for that.

  You're right. I wasn't calling him pathetic for drinking water. It's the whole context that makes it thus.

  Check out this other picture I took a few moments later, and you'll see that this poor, pathetic guy was sitting with the same body language for the few minutes my wife and I observed him.

  
  

  There's a lot that you can't get from the picture alone. You can't smell the smoke from the cigarettes that choke the already stale subway air, or the stench of urine from the homeless people that hang out there at night, or the reek of the sweaty bodies of the thousands of busy commuters noisily walking quickly by on a hot and muggy Budapest afternoon—ignoring him as if he were part of the furniture.

  And there he sits: alone, staring at the floor or the back of the JW literature cart, counting time, ignored by endless waves of humanity that pass him by as he sits in front of a poster advertising a rock band with the ironic name of "Queen" and another for a rock version of an opera commercializing Jesus Christ as a "Szupersztar."

  No one stops to talk to him or take his literature. My wife and I were the only ones that even seemed to notice him (for obvious reasons). Everyone is too occupied with their own mundane concerns to give him the time of day. They are busy trying to get home—exhausted from their day at work—or going to meet friends or family or wherever they are off to. Wherever it is they are coming from or going to, once thing is certain: they do not care about him or his irrelevant little cult or its irrelevant little message.

  That's why I said he is pathetic. The whole thing is pathetic. Very pathetic. Very.
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  Why NO bibles??

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know we have all said it before, but it simply blows my mind that the jws doing cart work do not have bibles on the cart to give out to interested ones!.

  how can they say they are "bible students" trying to share the "bibles message" and not give out bibles!?.

  other christian groups take the commission to share the bible seriously!

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  As has been pointed out, Bibles simply cost a lot, but another—and possibly more important—reason is that Bibles do not explicitly contain JW’s unique brand of propanganda.

  A person has to be duly indoctrinated before they will “believe” the Bible teaches ridiculous nonsense like “overlapping generations” or that Jehovah would let a fool like Stephen Lett represent him.

  Let’s review: It’s a cult!
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  Wasted A #@$%&!** Day

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i got to waste another day.

  for the sake of still in family i attended the circuit assembly.

  they say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved.

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  The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  Glad I missed this Circuit Assembly.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
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  2018 Courage Convention video invitation

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the video invitation for the 2018 convention is just creepy.

  i thought it was some parody at first as it seems 'dark'.it begins with a young man being pushed whilst standing at his locker and the voice over says that 'in critical times we need courage more than ever'.

  next, comes a clip of a male putting his hand on the shoulder of a female worker, the look she gives him would be enough to give him nightmares for the next year.

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  You're probably right Morpheus. Perhaps they were going for a "Phoenician look" (I'm no expert on ancient nautical engineering and design).

  Still, the Sea of Galilee is 21 km (13 mi) long and 13 km (8.1 mi) wide.

  I'm not buying monster rogue waves there.
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  My impressions of the cart witnessing

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have watched tons of youtube videos of our exjdub friends approaching and talking to the jdub manikins at their carts as they give a great witness to the world by sipping their hot lattes, updating their social media, chit chatting to each other, and the most important thing of getting their time in, counting their hours.. when the jw's see someone approach with a camera they do several things, they will turn their backs on the person, or look at the person with a frown and act like the person isn't even there.

  the witlesses refuse to answer simple, clear, and precise questions.

  when i was an elder i loved to get into discussions and debates with trinitarians, priest, clergymen and those who were born again.

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  jp1692

  I took this picture last summer in Budapest in a Metro station. Could this poor sod look any more disengaged? Nem tudom (I don’t think so).

  
  

  Still, you gotta love the irony of the two posters behind him. You don’t need to speak Hungarian to know that one is for a performance of “Jesus Christ Superstar” and the other for a Queen concert with Adam Lambert.

  The juxtaposition of this pathetic JW and the "worldly" posters is quite delicious! Sometimes life gives us these little gifts.

  
  
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  2018 Courage Convention video invitation

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the video invitation for the 2018 convention is just creepy.

  i thought it was some parody at first as it seems 'dark'.it begins with a young man being pushed whilst standing at his locker and the voice over says that 'in critical times we need courage more than ever'.

  next, comes a clip of a male putting his hand on the shoulder of a female worker, the look she gives him would be enough to give him nightmares for the next year.

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  What's with the Viking sail boat and the huge wave?!?

  
  

  (See the video @ 0:27")
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  British Psychological Society Research Digest Article: What are the psychological effects of losing your religion

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://digest.bps.org.uk/2018/04/06/what-are-the-psychological-effects-of-losing-your-religion/amp/.

  what are the psychological effects of losing your religion?.

  bps research digest.

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  Very interesting article. Thanks for posting this, Barbara!

  It would appear that losing one's religion tends to increase mental health or decrease depending on the individual's resiliency and coping skills.