How hypocritical. The JWs write, “We cherish our freeness of speech and appreciate the laws that protect our peaceful worship.”
As they infringe the free speech of others.
i know its a bit old, but i thought it was interesting and i only found out about this yesterday.
http://cornwallfreenews.com/2017/05/30/cornwall-bans-baptist-pastor-after-jehovah-witness-ribfest-complaints-may-30-2017/.
i was going to those conventions in cornwall before (ontario, canada), and i had seen that pastor who was preaching.
How hypocritical. The JWs write, “We cherish our freeness of speech and appreciate the laws that protect our peaceful worship.”
As they infringe the free speech of others.
of course this is an open ended question but have you ever really thought about what makes you who you are?.
is it our looks, our personality, our physique, our intelligence, our experiences and subsequent memories, our beliefs?
is it a combination of all these things and even more?
We are who we are as a result of the combined effects of nature and nurture (or lack thereof)—genetics and environment—with genetics having the dominant role.
We have absolutely no hope at all of self-determination until we are a mid-teenager at best, and by then our personality is largely set. If, after that, we have any hope of becoming who we think we want to be, it will only happen with great effort and introspection. That look in the mirror is more than most of us can handle and the work involved is more than most people can bear or are willing to do. So the vast majority of humans are destined to be nothing more or less than who and what their parents made them—for better or for worse as their parents before them.
We are all largely the products of decisions that were not well thought out: emotional reactions made in haste with little, if any, reflection or contemplation of the possible consequences or results.
This is the history of humanity. The few exceptions are notable for being few and far between.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5744503/chilean-bishops-offer-resignation-pope-abuse-scandal-statement.html.
all of chile's 34 bishops resign over a sex abuse and cover-up scandal after crisis meeting with the pope.
may 18, 2018. pope francis has accused chile's bishops of destroying evidence of sex crimes .
Well this is kind of a big deal!
just heard that a young brother committed suicide this week - the whole congregation is naturally very distressed.
what a tragedy.
according to my source he'd only been married about a year and his wife found him - he’d hung himself.
Wake Me: NEVER ONCE did I EVER tell my therapist that I was a Jehovah's Witness. I was too concerned about protecting the cult! ... That therapist was unable to help me.
This is a real problem. Many cult members will not seek help from a qualified mental health professional due to the vilification of these professions by the cult. But sadly, even when cult members do seek appropriate help, they undermine their own care by failing to give the psychologist, psychiatrist, therapist or counselor all the information they would need to be able to make an accurate diagnosis of the underlying problems and recommend an appropriate course of action.
It's like going to an general practitioner medical doctor and simply saying, "I'm not feeling well," but refusing to say what's wrong or disclose any symptoms or possible causes.
I'm glad, Wake Me, that you final overcame the psychological hurdles you had to healing. Your progress and growth since leaving the cult is evident!
jp
i have to say that the talk was very good.
instead of just repeating a jw manual , the speaker actually spoke about my brother!
there were a few scriptures with the jw hope but 80 % of the talk was actually about the life of my brother.
Minimus, I am sorry for your loss, but glad to hear that you seem to be making a good life for yourself after and outside of the cult.
Also, that you're not eaten up by anger and bitterness is a good sign as well.
jp
the fake news is working overtime.
just reported that, despite the tremendous success we are having with the economy & all things else, 91% of the network news about me is negative (fake).
why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt?
I am constantly amazed how many people on this forum -- former cult members all -- will unquestioningly line up behind Donald Trump and diss anyone that criticizes him even though there is quite a lot to be critical of.
You'd think after leaving one cult people would be a little more hesitant to join another, but apparently not. So much of how Trump acts and behaves is identical to that of the cult we all left. It's frankly quite weird that so many on this forum fail to see that. But I guess it just proves the well documented phenomenon that many people that leave one cult with frequently run to another because it's familiar and seems to provide them for what they think they need.
(I predict multiple "Dislikes" for this post but without anyone actually addressing the factual nature of my post.)
i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.
it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.
she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.
It's overlapping bullshit.
C'mon. This "doctrine" -- and it pains me to even call it that -- is the abso-fucking-lutely stupidest thing the WTBTS has ever come up with, and they've come up with some really stupid shit!
In a way, it's brilliant: it shows how gullible and desperate the average cult member is to belong to something no matter how dumb and to follow their leaders unquestioningly and uncritically. All the leaders have to do is come up with something -- it apparently doesn't matter how ridiculous or illogical it is -- and the "sheeple" will ooh and aah and say, "Oh. Yes, that's right! Look how wonderful Jehovah is!" and keep right on following no matter what.
Let's review: It's a cult!
Aren't we glad we have superior personal integrity, courage and critical thinking skills to call bullshit on this kind of nonsense!
Does that sound arrogant? Nah. It's just the truth, the real truth.
the changing of doctrine that cost brothers their lives or future happiness .
told flock to get no education .told sisters for one hundred years that having children wasn’t gods priority .
deaths resulted from no organ transplants and blood fractions.
Is the GB guilty of crimes against humanity?
Yes they are.
It's a cult and the leaders of this cult are completely morally culpable. Sadly, the United States of America currently does not have laws to prosecute such crimes, but instead provides cover for charlatans and con men.
Just because what they do is not illegal doesn't make it right.
Let's review: It's a cult!
tonight (sunday, 13th may) at 20:00 on bbc 2 ... for neanderthal believers, agnostics and deniers.. this first programme in a two-part series investigates what neanderthals looked like and and how they lived in their ice age world.
it turns out that almost everything we thought we knew about them is wrong.
they weren't hunched, grunting, knuckle-dragging ape-men at all.
EQV: [When “these scientists 'discover' something 'new' about something [it is] Kind of like the Governing Body shedding new light.”
No!
This comment shows a complete ignorance of how both scientists and cults leaders work.
Scientists try to find empirical data and objective evidence to help us understand how things really are. Peer review and repeatability are essential to a working hypothesis. Scientists welcome questions and must be willing to admit when they are wrong when the evidence indicates otherwise.
Cult leaders make shit up based solely on whatever suits their agenda or mood, they absolutely do NOT tolerate questions, they will put any and all pressure possible and necessary on anyone that dares to question them in order to silence dissenters and maintain absolute control over their mindlessly obedient followers, and cult leaders will never, ever admit error or defeat even in light of overwhelming evidence of their mistakes, failings and other errors and shortcomings.
in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.
i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.
it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.
Why not [label them] the apostate governing body?
Good idea. It certainly fits. This is NOT the religion I joined in the '80s.
WT leadership from Rutherford to the current GB have gradually apostatized from pretty much every core teaching the CT Russell had when he formed this religion in the 19th century.
Let's review: It's a cult!