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  Everything Happens For A Reason

  by Charles Gillette in

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  does everything happen for a reason?

  i hear this from so many people without any explanation as how this is so.

  what do you think about this belief?

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  jp1692

  No.

  Paragraph breaks, please!

  By the way, love Pinker. He’s one of my favorite authors.

  You should read his book, The Sense of Style.
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  Watchtower Spies and Secret Agents

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  i'm posting this link:http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/spies.htmlonce you start reading it you won't be able to stop.fascinating and well-documented citations which give credibility to the belief that such a sneaky, underhanded, and often illegal practice has been secretly promoted for decades by watchtower society world headquarters..

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  Oh, I’m sure the “upper management” of this cult knows this stuff goes on. I’m just saying it’s not a formal, well-planned or executed thing.

  I was an elder for over two decades and I can tell you on more than one occasion a CO encouraged the elders to engage in this sort of amateur-hour, “private-eye” nonsense. It’s more Keystone cops than anything.

  I personally never did it because — well it’s just wrong. But there were always at least a few elders eager to play at “cloak and dagger,” spy-vs-spy. It’s pretty immature actually.

  For example, the Orwellian and Puritanical WT mandate that “if two people of the opposite sex spend the whole night together they can be presumed to have fornicated” is all many elders needed as an excuse to pretend to be cops on a stakeout. Some of them just loved that shit. I guess it’s the only excitement in their otherwise dull and dreary lives.
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  Watchtower Spies and Secret Agents

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. scandals

  i'm posting this link:http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/spies.htmlonce you start reading it you won't be able to stop.fascinating and well-documented citations which give credibility to the belief that such a sneaky, underhanded, and often illegal practice has been secretly promoted for decades by watchtower society world headquarters..

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  I doubt this is any kind of formal, organized thing. It’s just a bunch of wannabe-important, uneducated janitors and window washers that feel empowered by the cult’s insane rules that makes them believe that they have both the right and the duty to overstep appropriate boundaries and act in ways that violate the privacy of others.

  The worst part is that many of us allowed the elders to do this to us and to others when we were members.

  All I can say is this, if any elder tried following me or my family now they’d get a quick lesson in the laws of physics followed up with a restraining order.

  Let’s review: It’s a cult!
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  Spiritual "Protection" - a Menace on Psychological Development

  by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

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  not quite a week ago, @lost in the fog created a thread entitled: do you have this illness?.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5187824140681216/do-you-have-this-illness.

  in my year of being on this forum, i have browsed many a disillusioned thread of ex-jehovah’s witnesses expressing similar symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder when detailing their awakening - my own story included.

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  Wake-me: You were one of the first people to reach out to me via PM on here and I've never forgotten our exchanges.

  Nor have I.

  I just took a look at your introductory post again. Do you remember writing this about a year ago?

  

  Look how much you've changed in a relatively short period of time! I am very proud of you. You show what can be done in reclaiming our lives once we leave the cult. No one can continue to make us feel weak or bad about ourself without our permission. And we're not going to give it to them ever again. Never again.
  

  You're no longer a "feeble nobody," a "toddler with a water pistol," you're a bad-ass women that can take care of herself. A real force of nature.
  

  I said it then, but it bears repeating: It takes courage to live an authentic life. But it is worth it. Once you've awaken, there's no going back.

  Well done!
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  Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.

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  you make the point that no one should do that but you also suggest that you can understand that those who are receiving this treatment should expect it

  Hey, I feel bad when someone gets bit by a dog. But if that dog was barking and growling and you antagonize it, you were asking for it.
  
  
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  Encouraging the nasty angels of our nature

  by Lee Elder in

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  i see stories like this one, and think we are losing our way as a nation.

  reverting to tribalism and racism.

  i wonder if its always been there lurking beneath the surface, and it just took someone to encourage it a bit.. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/26/us/woman-berates-man-viral-rant-don-lemon-cnntv/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2018-06-26t08%3a30%3a04&utm_term=link&utm_source=fbcnn.

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  These incidents show why (and those of us that have studied history know) the hostile, divisive rhetoric of those in leadership positions is so dangerous.

  There are a few voices of reason that rise above the din, but sadly there are quite a few that seem to deliberately incite hatred and violence.

  In any organization the person at the top steps the tone and the standard for what is acceptable.
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  Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.

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  Minimus: no one should do what Maxine Waters is recommending.

  And I completely agree. And I made that point. Clearly.
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  Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.

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  Minimus: If conservatives encouraged harassing anyone that disagreed with them . . .

  And plenty of them have.

  I didn’t pick a side in my comments. But you sure did in yours.

  I merely recounted the inevitable laws of cause and effect. Thankfully the laws of physics are non-partisan!

  Did you notice that you didn’t engage a single one of my arguments? Not one.

  Instead you chose to flip the script and go after Hillary. Had you understood my post you would know that I think harassing her—or anyone else for that matter—is just as wrong. But you didn’t. Why not?

  You’ve apparently lost your ability to think. Maybe you never had it. Many ex-cult members never developed the ability to think clearly and for themselves.

  And your juvenile name-calling is childish and ridiculous. But I understand, you’re just imitating your Lord.

  I’m very disturbed by the fairly large number of people on this forum that have left the JW cult just to join another.

  I guess it’s true: ”You can take the person out of the cult, but you can’t take the cult out of the person.”
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  Sarah Huckabee Sanders Kicked Out Of Restaurant For Supporting Trump

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.

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  What should be and what is are (and always have been) two completely different things.

  While I don't condone or agree with the hostile, public incivility that some have recently displayed towards Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Kirstjen Nielsen, I have to say: What the hell do they expect?

  Their behavior is completely offensive and egregious to many people.They must know that. They'd have to be stupid not to. But they aren't stupid. Sanders and Nielsen are both intelligent people. They should be able to do the math and expect push-back from those that disagree with them. So what's the problem?

  I don't know. But the response from those that disagree with their public statements and actions are totally predictable. The fact that Sanders, Nielsen and their ilk didn't anticipate these totally foreseeable reactions betrays any number of cognitive faults in their thinking processes, not the least of which is a sense of entitlement that is both wholly undeserved in their cases and completely anti-American.
  

  Many of the actions of members of the Trump administration are completely tone-deaf, "let them eat cake moments" that are just beyond belief for their gross insensitivity.

  Seriously. Kirstjen Nielsen chooses to go to a Mexican restaurant right after defending a highly controversial policy concerning immigrants at the Mexican border! That's just stupid. Why didn't she go out for Italian or Chinese? Rookie move all the way. Seriously.

  Hello! "What were you thinking, Kirstjen? Oh, I guess you weren't."
  

  And Melania Trump's decision to wear the "I don't care ..." jacket was also completely tone-deaf and insensitive. So dumb.
  

  I know she didn't have it on when she was actually at the detainment facilities, but we all know she had it on both before and immediately after. Undoubtedly in a failed attempt at damage control, her "spokesperson" says (because she apparently can't speak for herself) that it wasn't a message, but not too long later her hubby immediately contradicts her by saying it was a message. They can't even get on the same page for chrissakes!
  

  I'm sure Marie Antoinette is rolling over in her grave right now telling Team-Trump to "dial it back a bit!"

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  And please don't troll me about the Marie Antoinette story being apocryphal. I know. I was there. Just get the point and move on.
  
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  Just seen on Twitter: Ol' Rubber Face Steven Lett - Obedience Required

  by jp1692 in

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  Steven Lett actually had a lot to do with me waking up and realizing that I was in a cult.

  When he would give talks at District Conventions I couldn't watch on the big screen because he is such a rubber-faced fool.

  My now ex-wife would try to chastise me for not looking--insinuating that I was "disrespectful."

  On more than one occasion (we had the "privilege" of having Lett as a DC speaker several times) I'd respond, "You look at him. I can't!"

  She'd try for a little while and then sheepishly say, "No, I can't either."

  I was PIMO sixteen years ago and completely left nine years ago. She is still in.

  Go figure.

  Let's review: It's a cult!