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  It baffles me why they would even say this

  by Tameria2001 in

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  2. experiences

  back in 2001, i left the jws rather abruptly.

  i had discovered things about the watchtower that really made me quite angry, angry because i had been lied to, and it took me just to darn long to figure it out.

  before i had left, my husband and i wrote 3 letters, one to the elders at our congregation, and two to our parents.

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  It’s called the “Sunk Cost Fallacy.”

  Google it.
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  Great tribulation

  by dothemath in

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  2. bible

  you've likely heard all this before, but i had to laugh (silently) at the public talk today.. he focused on how close we are to the end.

  we're not only in the last days, but we're in "the final part" of the last days.. also, we are nearing "the end of the final part of the last days".

  he didn't read any scriptures backing up how the last days are broken up like this.. i went today since relatives es were visiting, but it was more entertaining than usual.. as well, the gb isn't warning us about armageddon, rather they're mainly warning about the great tribulation, which is "very, very, close!

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  I heard that in the early ‘80s from Nick Kovalak, a CO that’s now long dead.

  Let’s review: It’s a cult!
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  I Saw An Elder Yesterday Who Told Me 3 Area Kingdom Halls Were Being Dissolved

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  he said they read the letter to the congregation and were told the kh would be disbanded.

  2 other halls in the area were slated for closure.

  he said many people in the congregation began crying.

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  The natural reaction of sadness on the part of the congregation members should tell them that this is NOT a good thing, but their cult indoctrination will override that and force them to find a way to accept it and even justify it.

  So glad I’m free from this shit.

  Let’s review: It’s a cult!
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  Incomplete List of Reasons or Ways to Die in the Bible

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i´ve come up with a partial list (i am only in 1 kings) of the many reasons and ways to die in the bible.maybe, when i am in revelation, i am going to share the full list.

  how many do you think i´ll end up having??

  number.

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  You should be citing the scriptural references!
  
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  Watchtower circular reasoning chart...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure that many have already seen this, but its worth sharing again:.

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  Do You Know Of Anyone Who Left JWs And Then Decided To Return?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  quite a few years ago there was a poster here that left the religion because he knew it was simply not true.

  however, he returned to jws because he wanted to be with his family.

  i don’t know how he is doing but gumby was his name.

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  I know of quite a few.

  Most had not completely come to terms with the fact that it's a cult. Some few were okay with it for the sake of family. I know of one man that goes to all the meetings simply because he doesn't want to lose out on a fairly substantial inheritance.

  This might sound judgmental, and I suppose it is, but I personally cannot understand how those people can live with their own duplicity pretending to be someone they are not and pretending to believe things they do not. They all live "double-lives" to varying degrees.

  I could never do that. I miss my family members that are still-in. I miss them very much. But my personal integrity is more important to me than that.

  • “Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Self Reliance"
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  Healing & Rebuilding Your Life - Feedback Wanted

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been invited to speak at an international cultic studies association workshop this fall.

  i could use your help in focusing on my presentation subject.. these workshops are for former members of any cult or other high-control, authoritarian group, not just jehovah's witnesses.

  last year, i spoke at one of their larger conferences in europe.

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  The presentation went really well. In fact, the entire workshop was very successful.

  There were about 30 of us in attendance. The participants were from a number of different cults: Scientologists, Eternal Values, Morningland, the Unification Church (Moonies) and a few other lesser known fundamentalist Christians cults. There were several people that had been in psychotherapy cults. Oh, and there were three other ex-JWs.

  Some had left the cult as little as a couple of months ago, a few decades but had never processed it.
  

  I'll give a fuller report later, but one point that I want to pass on now is this: As superficially different as cults seem from each other, they are all in fact very, very similar.

  All cults -- by definition -- use the exact same techniques of mental manipulation and deceit to control their members. Only the details differ.

  More to follow ...
  
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  What Is Your Opinion Of Melania Trump?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i think she’s very intelligent and dignified.

  plus, in my humble opinion, i rate her as the most attractive first lady ever..

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  Just because I think Melania showed poor judgment wearing the "I really don't care" jacket does not mean I like Hillary.

  I find it odd that people always think that criticizing one means endorsing the other. I intensely dislike Hillary Clinton and everything she stands for. Remember, when starting this thread, Minimus asked: "What Is Your Opinion Of Melania Trump?" not: "What Is Your Opinion Of Hillary Clinton?"
  

  FYI: Whenever I criticize Hillary to any of my family members that love her, they automatically assume I support Trump, which I don't.

  Something to think about.
  
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  What Is Your Opinion Of Melania Trump?

  by minimus in

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  i think she’s very intelligent and dignified.

  plus, in my humble opinion, i rate her as the most attractive first lady ever..

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  Simon: it's hard to judge without knowing someone or knowing someone

  That is very true. I don't know her. But I can draw some conclusions based on her public behavior. Her tone-deafness is apparent from actions such as wearing the "I really don't care. Do U?" jacket during her trip to McAllen, Texas. Context counts.
  

  Also, the complete irony of her "Be Best" anti-bullying campaign is palpable in light how how her husband treats other people. C'mon, Donald Trump is the self-proclaimed Cyberbully-in-Chief.

  
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  What Is Your Opinion Of Melania Trump?

  by minimus in

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  i think she’s very intelligent and dignified.

  plus, in my humble opinion, i rate her as the most attractive first lady ever..

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  I find it very disappointing that the major thrust of the comments on this thread are more concerned with the appearance of the FLOTUS and not the quality of her character. But what should I expect from people that support a reality tv star as President?

  (I predict many “Dislikes” and no genuine dialogue or discussion from the members of the Trump cult in response to this comment.)