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  Was Sin Inevitable?

  by Parker in

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  2. bible

  i was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?

  also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.

  well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?

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  jp1692

  The definition of delusion is: a false belief that is based on an incorrect interpretation of reality (Harvard Health Publishing, Harvard Medical School).

  Or, alternately from Merriam-Webster: Delusion - a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary.
  

  It's what the word means. If you don't like it, then take it up with Harvard Medical School and Merriam-Webster.
  

  Next, you confuse religious beliefs with ethnicity and culture. They're different even if the same word is used to refer to both in some cases. I know many Jewish people who are atheists, but love their culture.
  

  Also next, George Carlin was raised as a Catholic. His comedic roasting of absurd religious beliefs primarily applied to Catholicism. That being said, if you find that it applies to other belief systems that would not be surprising.
  

  Finally, I am a scientist. I teach biology, chemistry, physics and psychology at the secondary level.

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  Was Sin Inevitable?

  by Parker in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was wondering about this question and wanted to ask: was sin inevitable?

  also, i had thought about past watchtower articles or publications related to this topic and did some research and found this from our readers ask if adam was perfect, how was it possible for him to sin?.

  well, then, did god create adam with a moral weakness, so that he lacked the ability to make sound decisions or to withstand temptation?

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  jp1692

  Religion is a delusional person’s conception of what an imaginary “supreme being” thinks of him and everyone else. It’s oddly self-referential, and—when understood in that light—quite illuminating as to what it means to be human.

  Considering the plethora of religious beliefs we humans have and have had over our history, all with conflicting beliefs about both WHO and WHAT “god” is, is also quite revealing when contemplated dispassionately and absent the need to be right about improbable myths and superstitious beliefs.

  Let that sink in.

  The fact that humans so stubbornly cling to convoluted, internally incoherent and inherently contradictory narratives about our alleged origins—stories which in our modern scientific era have been utterly destroyed and proved false—demonstrates that the vast majority of people would rather believe nonsense than accept reality and facts as they actually are.

  There are billions of “True Believers” on this planet who can’t agree on pretty much anything important about “god” or religion, and yet everyone of them thinks they’re right and everyone else is wrong. Their arrogance and hubris is only exceeded by their ignorant refusal to face facts.

  You should let that sink in as well!

  Even a cursory study of history shows that the vast majority of human conflicts have been caused by false beliefs about god’s, other people and our place in the grand scheme of things.

  Or, as George Carlin so eloquently put it: “It’s all bullshit and it’s bad for you!”
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  No, They Will Never Notice!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  since the watchtower has already made this bible public, i can put a link out here.. no, the rank & file will never notice the words "governing body" have been inserted into acts 15: 1-35 in the 2019 new world translation, matthew to acts.. click the image to make it larger if need be.. https://postimg.cc/sqvdl10w petra!

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  jp1692

  Does the NWT actually have the phrase “governing body” in the text of the Bible or is it just in that index?
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  Assistance Received!--2020-August-S-147-E Announcements And Reminders! (as of 2020-08-02)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone has stepped forward to assist us.

  that sure didn't take very long!.

  2020-august-s-147-e announcements and reminders, in english and in german.. .

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  jp1692

  Yes, I got it. Thanks, Petra!
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  Assistance Received!--2020-August-S-147-E Announcements And Reminders! (as of 2020-08-02)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone has stepped forward to assist us.

  that sure didn't take very long!.

  2020-august-s-147-e announcements and reminders, in english and in german.. .

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  That’s great news. Jehovah has provided “food at the proper time”! 🤣
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  Trump suggests postponing the elections ... I'm not making this up

  by RubaDub in

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  2. friends

  elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.

  i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.

  are we headed towards a dictatorship?

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  GT: The Democratic party and the Republican party have essentially switched platforms . . . sometime in the mid 20th century.

  Please stop confusing people with historical facts! 🤣

  https://youtu.be/CVktIq-_nN0
  
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  Trump suggests postponing the elections ... I'm not making this up

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.

  i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.

  are we headed towards a dictatorship?

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  jp1692

  Sir82, thanks for the much needed reality check on our delusional POTUS and wannabe dictator!

  Whenever he makes statements like this, claiming he can delay the elections or do other things which he does not have the legal authority to do, it just makes it all the more clear that—despite his constant tweets of "LAW & ORDER"—he either is woefully ignorant of or just doesn't care about the Constitution of the U.S. or any other laws of this country. Maybe both.
  

  And this is why those of us that do care about our Constitution want him out. #UnfitForOffice
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  What's Wrong with the Watchtower?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure who wrote this list a while back but i think it is worth a repeat....to be added to or subtracted from or modified...whatever.. what's wrong with the watchtower.

  "overlapping generations" - this teaching makes no sense.

  the word used by jesus is in the singular, not plural form.. .

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  Let’s review: It’s a cult!
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  Manual-- Instructions For COVID-19 and Announcement-2020-07-17

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  letters are from spain:2020-07-17 english announcement2020-07-17 spanish announcement2020-07-17 english instruction manual for covid-19, 18 pages with 8 chapters.table of contentsgeneral precautionsmeetingsfield ministryshepherdingtheocratic facilities and construction projectscongregation expensesjudicial mattersconventions and assemblies2020-07-17 spanish instruction manual for covid-19, 18 pages with 8 chapters.índiceprecauciones generalesreunionesministeriopastoreoedificios destinados a actividades espirituales y proyectos de construccióngastos de la congregaciónasuntos judicialesasambleas regionales y de circuitothose on the email list have already received these documents.

  if you are not on the email list, reply below for a download link to be sent to your pm box.petra!

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  It's not a new thought, but I was really struck by the vast amount of infantilizing going on in these directions.

  I've come to appreciate that this is a basic trait of all cults to maintain control, but it is really remarkable how the GB via the branch treat elders as if they are children and couldn't possibly think their own about how to care for their family, congregation members or neighbors without being given substantial, explicit and often exceedingly detailed instructions as to how to do that.
  

  By implicitly denying the maturity in age or experience on the part of the elders, the GB and the branch maintain control. And of course the elders, following this model, do the same to their congregation members.

  This is a powerful example of how learned helplessness is inculcated in the sheep.

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  Watchtower June 2020 Article, '' Return to Me''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | june 2020. .

  study article 26.

  6 who can share in the search for inactive ones?

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  jp1692

  I quit attending meetings seven years ago. Since that time I have only been contacted once by an elder to have a “shepherding” call. I politely declined but said I would appreciate if he would set up a meeting to help me reconcile with some JW family with whom I was alienated by the religion when I was DF’d six years before—I had been reinstated for two years at this point.

  He said he couldn’t do that because they weren’t in his congregation. (Both congregations are less than a 10 minute drive from my house.) I replied, “That’s funny because that’s what the elders in their congregation said to me—they couldn’t help because I’m not in their congregation!”

  So much for an “International Brotherhood”!

  That was five years ago.